OR POLITICS 838 RE GAY RIGHTS STUFF WAS OREGON GAS
From: upstart23@no-spam (Heck's Kitchen)
Subject: Re: Gay rights stuff [was: Oregon Gas]
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:29:54 GMT


Bob Tiernan <zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:

>When you say things like this it appears that >the real issue is that you have a personal >problems with the behavior and are hiding behind >the states' rights issue, and the tyranny of >the majority concept.

I guess appearances can deceive. I happen to have no problem with responsible gay behavior, and think the government should stay out of the irresponsible kind, if in private.

>That sounds like you're saying that it >would be okay to have what even you'd >consider to be unconstitutional laws >if they can easily be enforced (i.e.
>that it would be really easy for >police, code-compliance officers etc >to spot violations in the open).
>That's naughty of you.

Actually, I oppose ALL laws that violate Constitutional rights, and at least oppose those whose content is not necessarily specifically protected by the Constitution, but whose enforcement essentially is.
The enforceability concept is one I use to expand the scope of Constitutional protections, not to contract it.

I think your best point (and I would be happy to be fully persuaded to your point of view other than "it's the right result") is that privacy is simply one of the unenumerated rights. I would then extend that to the right to privacy to one's earnings and livelihood (as opposed to one's corporate business books), to eat, drink, screw and smoke in one's own home without limitation (harm to other excepted) the right to travel freely in one's own nation with no record kept of it, no identity check, the right to buy, own, and carry guns anonymously throughout one's nation, etc.