OR POLITICS 779 HITLER AND HOMOSEXUALITY
From: David Zeit (davezeit@no-spam)
Subject: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:32:18 GMT


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Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"



















From: "Dave Thompson" (dav13795@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:56:38 -0700

"David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message news:3F26B06C.6247C994@no-spam > x-no-archive: yes >
>
> Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"

So maybe gonorrhea is Mother Nature's way of saying stop having heterosexual sex?


From: Don Homuth (enough@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:04:28 GMT

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:32:18 GMT, David Zeit <davezeit@no-spam> wrote:

>Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to >believe it to be the truth.

Actually, Hitler didn't say that first. It had been noted previously and he merely repeated it. But if you wish to assert that all those who follow the advice are Hitlerian, we have Much To Discuss.

Wanna go there?

>Today Homosexuals are telling us there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

Actually, no -- that is not what they're saying. They are happy to leave you entirely alone as regards your personal take on the matter.
They're more than pleased to say that if you think there's something wrong with it, you shouldn't do it.

Seems fair enough.

What they are saying is that it's none of your damned business what they choose to do.

Which also seems fair enough.

> I wonder is they ever think that aids may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"


And here Pat Robertson and the Radical Religious Right/GOP were saying it was God's Way of saying "stop it!"

No -- that is not the case. The virus did not sit sequestered in Western Africa awaiting homosexuality in the Western Hemisphere.
AIDS, after all, does not strike only homosexuals. In fact, nearest where it first developed, the usual means of transmission is via Heterosexual Contact.

Which leads us to believe that it may be Mother Nature's way of opposing heterosexual contact, perhaps?

I'd advise you to drop that line of argument. It's stupid on its face.


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spamguard@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:08:29 -0700

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"David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message news:3F26B06C.6247C994@no-spam > x-no-archive: yes >
>
> Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"

Then it's a self-limiting "problem" and nothing for non-homosexuals to be concerned with.


From: Don Homuth (enough@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:07:22 GMT

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:13:43 GMT, "Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote:

>
>Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message >news:h8ddiv88mmk6t2vq2kovqh7nivhe3b2bfb@no-spam >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:32:18 GMT, David Zeit >> <davezeit@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> >Today Homosexuals are telling us there is nothing wrong with >homosexuality.
>>
>> Actually, no -- that is not what they're saying. They are happy to >> leave you entirely alone as regards your personal take on the matter.
>> They're more than pleased to say that if you think there's something >> wrong with it, you shouldn't do it.
>
>Actually, thats not true either....what they are saying is "we do things >differently, and you must accept what we do. and if you dont, then we want >special treatment to make it so"

Not passing punitive laws against homosexual conduct is not "special treatment" however.

>> Seems fair enough.
>>
>> What they are saying is that it's none of your damned business what >> they choose to do.
>>
>> Which also seems fair enough.
>
>then they need to quit making it a public issue..its a private matter.

At the moment, it's a public issue if there are laws prohibiting what they may do in private. Get those struck down properly, and you still won't be forced to do anything.

Equal treatment is not, by inspection "special." It is Special treatment to stigmatize them for no particular reason, however.

So indeed - do Not give them Special Treatment -- either way. Just treat them legally like everyone else.

Works just fine.


From: "gatt" (gatt@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:16:57 GMT

"David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message
> Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"

What, are you trolling?

AIDS is wiping out millions of heterosexual blacks in Africa. Have you ever wondered if AIDS is the Klan's way of saying "stop it"?

-c

From: Bill Shatzer (bshatzer@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:20:19 -0700

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, David Zeit wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
> Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"

More likely to be mandating an end to sex entirely.

World-wide, more HIV infected folks became infected through hetrosexual sex than through homosexual contacts.

Mother Nature doesn't seem to be picking sides on that one.

Peace and justice,


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spamguard@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:41:25 -0700

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"Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote in message news:3ed6b23d9cb1db6219fa0bf37a90c856@no-spam >
>
> Actually, thats not true either....what they are saying is "we do things > differently, and you must accept what we do. and if you dont, then we want > special treatment to make it so"

IOW, you don't want to be held accountable for your actions.


Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:57:29 GMT
From: "Jon" (jdcope@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality

Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message news:djkdiv4cmcbmgo8gqlom2m3cuiauv5vfbi@no-spam > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:13:43 GMT, "Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >
> >Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message > >news:h8ddiv88mmk6t2vq2kovqh7nivhe3b2bfb@no-spam > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:32:18 GMT, David Zeit > >> <davezeit@no-spam> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Today Homosexuals are telling us there is nothing wrong with > >homosexuality.
> >>
> >> Actually, no -- that is not what they're saying. They are happy to > >> leave you entirely alone as regards your personal take on the matter.
> >> They're more than pleased to say that if you think there's something > >> wrong with it, you shouldn't do it.
> >
> >Actually, thats not true either....what they are saying is "we do things > >differently, and you must accept what we do. and if you dont, then we want > >special treatment to make it so"
>
> Not passing punitive laws against homosexual conduct is not "special > treatment" however.
>
> >> Seems fair enough.
> >>
> >> What they are saying is that it's none of your damned business what > >> they choose to do.
> >>
> >> Which also seems fair enough.
> >
> >then they need to quit making it a public issue..its a private matter.
>
> At the moment, it's a public issue if there are laws prohibiting what > they may do in private. Get those struck down properly, and you still > won't be forced to do anything.

Agreed. But not to forget there are laws in some states that prohibit some things heteros do as well..

>
> Equal treatment is not, by inspection "special." It is Special > treatment to stigmatize them for no particular reason, however.

They already have the same same protections everyone else does as a citizen of this country and a human being. Asking us to think of their "rights"
differently because of their personal bedroom behaviors is special treatment.

> So indeed - do Not give them Special Treatment -- either way. Just > treat them legally like everyone else.

If they kept their personal lives to themselves, "like everyone else"...it would not be an issue at all.

>
> Works just fine.


From: "John Lienhart" (John@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:02:47 GMT

"Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote in message news:6356071356892391d323a978c6bc2a83@no-spam >
>
> If they kept their personal lives to themselves, "like everyone else"...it > would not be an issue at all.
>
>
I've never worked where people (as a rule) kept their personal lives to themselves. They have pictures on the walls, talk to their spouses on the phone, invite co-workers to parties, attend company sponsored events with their spouses or significant others or talk/brag about their relationships.
The individual who doesn't divulge anything about his or her relationship is the exception.


From: stanleyh@no-spam (Stan)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:14:59 -0700

Andrew wrote:
> Ya know, it's pretty darned easy to plug in anything you don't like as > in "If you tell a life enough times the people will come to believe it > to be the truth. Today ___________ are telling us that > _____________." Let's see, I'll try a few of my pet peeves:
> > (prior to April, 2003) Today the Bush Administration is telling us > there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, poised and ready to > clobber America with another 9/11.
> > Today the Bush Administration is telling us we can cut taxes and > increase defense spending and not worry about the deficit!
> > Anyone else?

Ummm...today AOL marketers are telling us that everything we see on Usenet is true!

;)

Stan.


From: Don Homuth (enough@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:36:42 GMT

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:57:29 GMT, "Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote:

>
>Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message >news:djkdiv4cmcbmgo8gqlom2m3cuiauv5vfbi@no-spam
>> At the moment, it's a public issue if there are laws prohibiting what >> they may do in private. Get those struck down properly, and you still >> won't be forced to do anything.
>
>Agreed. But not to forget there are laws in some states that prohibit some >things heteros do as well..

Yes indeedy -- the Blue Nose types are ever with us, attempting to regulate the personal conduct of others for no particular reason, and to no particular end.

So we have Anti-Sodomy laws that regulate conduct between heterosexuals *and* homosexuals, but are only enforced against the latter, seemingly.

The key is not to emulate them.

>> Equal treatment is not, by inspection "special." It is Special >> treatment to stigmatize them for no particular reason, however.
>
>They already have the same same protections everyone else does as a citizen >of this country and a human being. Asking us to think of their "rights"
>differently because of their personal bedroom behaviors is special >treatment.

Nope. They are singled out for Special Treatment in the laws that seek to regulate or prohibit the private behaviors of two consenting adults, for no obvious reason.

I'm all in favor of eliminating such Special Treatment and just letting them handle their own private matters privately. If you believe in No Special Treatment, you'd agree with that stance.

Apparently you don't.

>> So indeed - do Not give them Special Treatment -- either way. Just >> treat them legally like everyone else.
>
>If they kept their personal lives to themselves, "like everyone else"...it >would not be an issue at all.

Um -- they do not ask to be arrested for their private conduct, and it remains against the law if some Crusading Heterosexual decides to file the complaint. Hell -- there doesn't even have to be Proof if the local CoP and DA are affiliated with the Religious Right types.

The Law Is Being Broken -- Down With Their Doors and Off to Jail With The Sodomites.

Just leave them alone in private.


Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
From: Darrell Fuhriman (darrell@no-spam)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:35:07 GMT

David Zeit <davezeit@no-spam> writes:

> nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"

Hmm... apparently sub-saharan africans are really, really gay.

I had no idea.

Darrell

From: Joseph (joeofseattle@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:42:59 -0700

I invoke Godwin's law.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:13:43 GMT, "Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote:

>
>Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message >news:h8ddiv88mmk6t2vq2kovqh7nivhe3b2bfb@no-spam >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:32:18 GMT, David Zeit >> <davezeit@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to >> >believe it to be the truth.
>>
>> Actually, Hitler didn't say that first. It had been noted previously >> and he merely repeated it. But if you wish to assert that all those >> who follow the advice are Hitlerian, we have Much To Discuss.
>>
>> Wanna go there?
>>
>> >Today Homosexuals are telling us there is nothing wrong with >homosexuality.
>>
>> Actually, no -- that is not what they're saying. They are happy to >> leave you entirely alone as regards your personal take on the matter.
>> They're more than pleased to say that if you think there's something >> wrong with it, you shouldn't do it.
>
>Actually, thats not true either....what they are saying is "we do things >differently, and you must accept what we do. and if you dont, then we want >special treatment to make it so"
>
>
>
>>
>> Seems fair enough.
>>
>> What they are saying is that it's none of your damned business what >> they choose to do.
>>
>> Which also seems fair enough.
>
>then they need to quit making it a public issue..its a private matter.
>
>>
>> > I wonder is they ever think that aids may be Mother Nature's way of >saying, "Stop it!"
>>
>> And here Pat Robertson and the Radical Religious Right/GOP were saying >> it was God's Way of saying "stop it!"
>>
>> No -- that is not the case. The virus did not sit sequestered in >> Western Africa awaiting homosexuality in the Western Hemisphere.
>> AIDS, after all, does not strike only homosexuals. In fact, nearest >> where it first developed, the usual means of transmission is via >> Heterosexual Contact.
>>
>> Which leads us to believe that it may be Mother Nature's way of >> opposing heterosexual contact, perhaps?
>>
>> I'd advise you to drop that line of argument. It's stupid on its >> face.
>

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From: "Tom" (tom@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:35:07 -0700

Did it occur to you that a monogamous couple can't get STD?
So maybe yes, too.
Or were you being flippant here?

"Dave Thompson" <dav13795@no-spam> wrote in message news:viddaq4tq7uv41@no-spam >
>
> "David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message > news:3F26B06C.6247C994@no-spam > > x-no-archive: yes > >
> >
> > Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"
>
> So maybe gonorrhea is Mother Nature's way of saying stop having heterosexual > sex?
>
>


From: eglamkowski@no-spam (Edward Glamkowski)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: 30 Jul 2003 07:35:20 -0700

"Tom" <tom@no-spam> wrote in message news:<3f274a7a$1@no-spam>...
> Did it occur to you that a monogamous couple can't get STD?

Of course they can.

If one of them gets a blood transfusion from an infected blood supply.

Or if they stop to aid a car crash victim who is all bloody up and infected, and they themselves get a cut in aiding the victim and the blood gets mixed.

Or if one of them is a drug addict and shares unclean needles with infected people.

There are tons of ways for a monogamous couple to get an STD.
Some of them behavioral choices (controllable), some of them just plain old bad luck (uncontrollable).


Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:41:04 GMT
From: "Jon" (jdcope@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality

Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message news:47tdivk062kuhti692br2es8ej6kd59f8m@no-spam > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:57:29 GMT, "Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >
> >Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message > >news:djkdiv4cmcbmgo8gqlom2m3cuiauv5vfbi@no-spam >
> >> At the moment, it's a public issue if there are laws prohibiting what > >> they may do in private. Get those struck down properly, and you still > >> won't be forced to do anything.
> >
> >Agreed. But not to forget there are laws in some states that prohibit some > >things heteros do as well..
>
> Yes indeedy -- the Blue Nose types are ever with us, attempting to > regulate the personal conduct of others for no particular reason, and > to no particular end.

If you keep it in your bedroom, how would they know?

>
> So we have Anti-Sodomy laws that regulate conduct between > heterosexuals *and* homosexuals, but are only enforced against the > latter, seemingly.

hmm...never heard of them being enforced.
The cops making raids at the bath-houses nowadays?

>
> The key is not to emulate them.
>
> >> Equal treatment is not, by inspection "special." It is Special > >> treatment to stigmatize them for no particular reason, however.
> >
> >They already have the same same protections everyone else does as a citizen > >of this country and a human being. Asking us to think of their "rights"
> >differently because of their personal bedroom behaviors is special > >treatment.
>
> Nope. They are singled out for Special Treatment in the laws that > seek to regulate or prohibit the private behaviors of two consenting > adults, for no obvious reason.

That were written 50 years ago.
And if they kept their personal bidness to themselves, nobody would know what they were doing, would they?
So how could they be arrested?

>
> I'm all in favor of eliminating such Special Treatment and just > letting them handle their own private matters privately. If you > believe in No Special Treatment, you'd agree with that stance.
>
> Apparently you don't.

Actually, I do. I dont want to hear about any of their personal matters.
Its not my business. They are the ones making an issue of it.

>
> >> So indeed - do Not give them Special Treatment -- either way. Just > >> treat them legally like everyone else.
> >
> >If they kept their personal lives to themselves, "like everyone else"...it > >would not be an issue at all.
>
> Um -- they do not ask to be arrested for their private conduct, and it > remains against the law if some Crusading Heterosexual decides to file > the complaint. Hell -- there doesn't even have to be Proof if the > local CoP and DA are affiliated with the Religious Right types.

Im not aware of anyone ever being arrested for breaking laws like that in my lifetime.
People may have tried, but I have never heard of it.

>
> The Law Is Being Broken -- Down With Their Doors and Off to Jail With > The Sodomites.
>
> Just leave them alone in private.

Just fine. But they need to keep it there as well.


From: Don Homuth (enough@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:17:27 GMT

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:41:04 GMT, "Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote:

>
>Don Homuth <enough@no-spam> wrote in message >news:47tdivk062kuhti692br2es8ej6kd59f8m@no-spam >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:57:29 GMT, "Jon" <jdcope@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> >Agreed. But not to forget there are laws in some states that prohibit >some >> >things heteros do as well..
>>
>> Yes indeedy -- the Blue Nose types are ever with us, attempting to >> regulate the personal conduct of others for no particular reason, and >> to no particular end.
>
>If you keep it in your bedroom, how would they know?

As in the case in TX, they wouldn't need to Know. They could simply make the accusation, and here comes the Morals Cops.

But your point then argues for doing away with the statutes entirely as well. If no one knows about it, there's no need for a statute anyway.

>> So we have Anti-Sodomy laws that regulate conduct between >> heterosexuals *and* homosexuals, but are only enforced against the >> latter, seemingly.
>
>hmm...never heard of them being enforced.

Don't get out much, do you?

>The cops making raids at the bath-houses nowadays?

There was an article on Google news just yesterday about how the Internet is replacing the bath-houses. But a lack of enforcement of a statute that still exists only means that at some point, the enforcement can be reinstated.

Best to do away with the statute altogether, so that there will be nothing to be enforced.
....
>> Nope. They are singled out for Special Treatment in the laws that >> seek to regulate or prohibit the private behaviors of two consenting >> adults, for no obvious reason.
>
>That were written 50 years ago.

That's OK -- it doesn't matter when they were written. What matters is that they be repealed. Since they can't be repealed 50 years ago,
then Today will work just fine.

>And if they kept their personal bidness to themselves, nobody would know >what they were doing, would they?

Morals Cops go looking for this stuff, as in the TX case.

>So how could they be arrested?

By a citizen filing a complaint.

>> I'm all in favor of eliminating such Special Treatment and just >> letting them handle their own private matters privately. If you >> believe in No Special Treatment, you'd agree with that stance.
>>
>> Apparently you don't.
>
>Actually, I do. I dont want to hear about any of their personal matters.

How about hetero involvements -- do you shy away from hearing about them too?

We are a horny society -- we talk about such matters all the time. We have it on the teevee constantly, and are bombarded with it from morning till night.

That's not all that easy to control. What is easy to control is our reaction to the private matters of consenting adults. If you hear about it, that does not constitute a plausible reason to charge someone with a crime, simply because you don't like it.

>Its not my business.

Quite.

> They are the ones making an issue of it.

You'd simply prefer they go back into the closet, yes? If they don't,
then putting them in jail is the appropriate response?
>
>> Um -- they do not ask to be arrested for their private conduct, and it >> remains against the law if some Crusading Heterosexual decides to file >> the complaint. Hell -- there doesn't even have to be Proof if the >> local CoP and DA are affiliated with the Religious Right types.
>
>Im not aware of anyone ever being arrested for breaking laws like that in my >lifetime. People may have tried, but I have never heard of it.

Don't get around much, do you?

>> The Law Is Being Broken -- Down With Their Doors and Off to Jail With >> The Sodomites.
>>
>> Just leave them alone in private.
>
>Just fine. But they need to keep it there as well.

And if they don't, just like the heteros who discuss their amorous ventures in public from time to time, or (gasp!) even might indulge in a PDA when you're not personally prepared for it, what You want is a handy-dandy little statute you can use to throw them in jail for upsetting your personal self.

No -- that won't do.


From: "Dave Thompson" (dav13795@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:13:23 -0700

"Tom" <tom@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f274a7a$1@no-spam > Did it occur to you that a monogamous couple can't get STD?

There are several ways to get an STD without having sex. There are also ways to enjoy sex as much as you want without getting a disease.

> So maybe yes, too.

We didn't evolve as monogamous creatures - even if it is desireable for many reasons.

> Or were you being flippant here?

Yes, I was being sarcastic.

>
> "Dave Thompson" <dav13795@no-spam> wrote in message > news:viddaq4tq7uv41@no-spam > >
> >
> > "David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:3F26B06C.6247C994@no-spam > > > x-no-archive: yes > > >
> > >
> > > Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > > > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > > > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > > > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"
> >
> > So maybe gonorrhea is Mother Nature's way of saying stop having > heterosexual > > sex?
> >
> >
>
>


From: "Tom" (tom@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:00:27 -0700

> We didn't evolve

From: "Tom" (tom@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:02:24 -0700

Uhh, not harldy and you miss the point completely.
The 'best' chance in the world of 'not' getting an std is being just what I said and 'that' is the point I was making.

"WinGuru" <anonymous> wrote in message news:3f283e26$1@no-spam >
> "Tom" <tom@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f274a7a$1@no-spam > > Did it occur to you that a monogamous couple can't get STD?
> > So maybe yes, too.
> > Or were you being flippant here?
>
> I take it you failed health class? There are a number of routes that STDs > can take to infect people other than "just sex". Yes, monogomy is one very > effective technique to help reduce the chances, but it's not 100%.
>
> >
> > "Dave Thompson" <dav13795@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:viddaq4tq7uv41@no-spam > > >
> > >
> > > "David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:3F26B06C.6247C994@no-spam > > > > x-no-archive: yes > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > > > > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > > > > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that > aids > > > > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"
> > >
> > > So maybe gonorrhea is Mother Nature's way of saying stop having > > heterosexual > > > sex?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


From: "Dave Thompson" (dav13795@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:16:25 -0700

"Tom" <tom@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f28be0a$1@no-spam > > We didn't evolve
Mountains of evidence and more than a century of research in every country across the world indicates that we certainly did evolve. Science has no obligation to confirm it's findings to your dogmatic religious beliefs. The bible is not a science text and does not trump the overwhelming evidence of our origins. Maybe what you need to do is actually find out a bit of what the scientific method is, what evolution really is, and what disciplines in evolution science are being used in everyday practical applications - in other words, if evolution were not true then there would be no genetic research, medicine production, agricultural hybridization, or many other things you rely on because they would simply not work at all.

Now think on this for a while. If you feel that you have some "proof" that evolution is false or that creationism is true go right ahead and present it.

"If God wanted us to believe we were related to chimpanzees,
he'd have given us DNA 95% identical to theirs."


From: "WinGuru" (anonymous)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:13:58 -0700

You're word choice was "can't". Are you now admitting that you were wrong when you stated that?

"Tom" <tom@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f28be7e$1@no-spam > Uhh, not harldy and you miss the point completely.
> The 'best' chance in the world of 'not' getting an std is being just what I > said and 'that' is the point I was making.
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> "WinGuru" <anonymous> wrote in message news:3f283e26$1@no-spam > >
> > "Tom" <tom@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f274a7a$1@no-spam > > > Did it occur to you that a monogamous couple can't get STD?
> > > So maybe yes, too.
> > > Or were you being flippant here?
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> > I take it you failed health class? There are a number of routes that STDs > > can take to infect people other than "just sex". Yes, monogomy is one > very > > effective technique to help reduce the chances, but it's not 100%.
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> > > "Dave Thompson" <dav13795@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:viddaq4tq7uv41@no-spam > > > >
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> > > > "David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:3F26B06C.6247C994@no-spam > > > > > x-no-archive: yes > > > > >
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> > > > > Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > > > > > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there > is > > > > > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that > > aids > > > > > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"
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> > > > So maybe gonorrhea is Mother Nature's way of saying stop having > > > heterosexual > > > > sex?
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From: "John Judy" (replyinthegroup@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 06:31:41 GMT

You sure you wanna go down the "Hitler/homo" path? There's considerable evidence (anecdotal, but there) that Hitler liked a bit of penis now and then himself.

How about laying off the gays for a bit? Is anyone trying to screw you? I'm guessing no, in which case what difference does it make? Unless of course your hiding something from yourself....

"David Zeit" <davezeit@no-spam> wrote in message news:3F26B06C.6247C994@no-spam > x-no-archive: yes >
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> Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to > believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is > nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids > may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"


From: Layne Barlow (omen@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Hitler and Homosexuality
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:19:08 -0700

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:32:18 GMT, David Zeit <davezeit@no-spam> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes >
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>Hitler said if you tell a lie enough times the people will come to >believe it to be the truth. Today Homosexuals are telling us there is >nothing wrong with homosexuality. I wonder is they ever think that aids >may be Mother Nature's way of saying, "Stop it!"

Right. And polio was Mother Nature's way of saying "kids, stop walking!"