OR POLITICS 769 RE GAY RIGHTS STUFF WAS OREGON GAS
From: upstart23@no-spam (Heck's Kitchen)
Subject: Re: Gay rights stuff [was: Oregon Gas]
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:06:35 GMT


Bob Tiernan <zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:

>Heck's Kitchen wrote:
>
>> I believe that the laws on such conduct should be enacted >> by state-by-state legal process, not by 6 judges in DC.

>Would you say the same thing if a majority of the USSC >refuses to overturn a state gun control law and says that >such laws ought to be "enacted by state-by-state legal >process"?

Fair point, but the key question is whether or not the behavior is constitutionally protected.

Some things are tolerable for state legislatures to make stupid statutes about, and some aren't. The best case against anti-sodomy laws is that they can not be fairly enforced across society except by unconstitutional means.

>You need to start thinking of individual *liberty*
>(as this recent majority opinion makes clear)
>when it comes to any level of government sticking >its nose where it isn't needed. To not do so >only invites other you disagree with to claim the >same interpretation for denying your own favorite >rights.

My problem is that they are carving out a narrow right of privacy,
instead of a broad one. I believe that the right to privacy should extend to more spheres, not this limited politically-correct one. I believe that cops should have to give a Miranda-type disclosure before obtaining consent for a search that would not be permissible without consent, for instance.

By expanding the sphere of rights that are treated as Constitutionally-protected (which is tempting because of the areas where the sphere has been contracted, and the enumerated powers have been expanded) we risk turning the Supreme Court into a monarchy,
using their judgement to make decrees that limit our rights to establish states that offer differing alternatives for a diverse society.