Bill Shatzer wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
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> > Bill Shatzer wrote:
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> > > On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
> > > -snips-
> > > > Whatever the reason for taking another's property, its stealing.
>
> > > Not legally, certainly.
>
> > > Off the top of my head, I can come up with at least a half a dozen
> > > scenarios where taking the property of another is not "stealing"
> > > under the law.
>
> > Hmmm, An example or two if you please.
>
> Well, on the government side we've eminient domain and impressment.
Under the Absolute Moral Law this is stealing.
>
> Then we've repossession and impoundment.
Consequences of stealing as answer to the breaking of contract.
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> And the doctrines of emergency and choice of evils.
Both arguably expedient but having no effect on
Absolute Moral Law.
You're confusing hit and miss conventional law with 100%
accurate, Absolute Moral Law.
>
>
> > > But, more deeply, whether or not taking another's property is
> > > "stealing", is it always morally wrong?
>
> > What do you call it, "moral expedience"?
>
> Iffen my house is on fire, there's nothing morally wrong about
> taking my neighbor's garden hose.
There is if your neighbor doesn't permit.. Anyhoo, I think
you meant "borrow" not "take".
>
>
> And if my neighbor is starting the fires, there's nothing morally
> wrong with taking his matches away.
I don't believe depriving a criminal of his tools for
committing crime is stealing.
>
>
> > > Attaching the label of "stealing" doesn't answer the moral question.
>
> > "Steal" is the operative word.
>
> "Steal" is a legal term, not a moral one.
It is both.
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>
> > > There are numerous scenarios where it might well be morally correct
> > > or at the least morally justified.
>
> > Once you start "justifying" immorality, you're into
> > "moral relativism"... and, you know where that leads.
>
> It's a damn poor "morality" which can't be justified.
The problem is not in finding justification for morality
but in inventing spurious justification for immorality.
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>
> Iffen it can't be justified, it isn't morality.
Correct.
<snip gratuitous nonsense>
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