NYC POLITICS 880 RE NEW YORK TO OPEN FIRST U S PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR GAYS
From: Obwon (ob110ob@no-spam)
Subject: Re: New York to Open First U.S. Public School for Gays
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:03:47 GMT


On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:06:50 GMT, ByTor <ByTor@no-spam>
wrote:

>In article <ps27jv0o88ucdefaq9dmmvr0oab7pffs4p@no-spam>, ob110ob@no-spam >says... while attaching C4 explosives to computer and foaming at the >mouth!
>
>> Oh come off it... >
>Curious question for ya.....I've basically followed your thread.
>
>What type of "security" would you propose for this "special" school?
>Who will foot the bill?
>I mean if they are targeted as much as is stated(which I'm not >disputing), would'nt special security be an issue?......

That's another question entirely since the "targeting" under discussion is of a kind that exists when gays are in the public environment that this is supposed to correct. As someone else here said, being located in Greenwich Village, there's an extremely low expectation of outsider attacks. So no, I don't see any reason to think that special security is needed.

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From: ByTor (ByTor@no-spam)
Subject: Re: New York to Open First U.S. Public School for Gays
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:43:56 GMT

In article <dr0fjv4fvcjqorotg4r48ro6f5oafsbvt9@no-spam>, ob110ob@no-spam says...
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:06:50 GMT, ByTor <ByTor@no-spam>
> wrote:
> > >In article <ps27jv0o88ucdefaq9dmmvr0oab7pffs4p@no-spam>, ob110ob@no-spam > >says... while attaching C4 explosives to computer and foaming at the > >mouth!
> >
> >> Oh come off it... > >
> >Curious question for ya.....I've basically followed your thread.
> >
> >What type of "security" would you propose for this "special" school?
> >Who will foot the bill?
> >I mean if they are targeted as much as is stated(which I'm not > >disputing), would'nt special security be an issue?......
> > That's another question entirely since the "targeting" under > discussion is of a kind that exists when gays are in the public > environment that this is supposed to correct. As someone else > here said, being located in Greenwich Village, there's an > extremely low expectation of outsider attacks. So no, I don't > see any reason to think that special security is needed.

Hmmmmm, interesting, I actually think it would be a part, not seperate, question of the issue. Public environment? Why not make it a private school than? Why is it a "public" responsibility? I mean don't get me wrong, education is every students right, it is our systems obligation to comply and that is already being done now without seperatism.

1) What about the E.O.E (Equal Opportunity Employment) will only Gay teachers, Janitors, Principals, etc., only be hired?
2) What about non-gay students, will they be allowed to attend?
3) Will non-gay students be teased & attacked? How will that be confronted? Or does gay children not exhibit that type of behavior?

After all I would think that if the above first two questions are answered yes would that not be in fact "reverse discrimination?" I mean after all the non-gay population is part of the issue no?

I would think the entire spectrum is to be looked at, not seperating the "different" issues. All of these will also fall under the umbrella of approaching the undertaking of a project like this. It appears to me that this issue is more of a political issue/statement and those motivations should be questioned first. When it comes to political involvement sometimes people tend to forget the welfare of the people that may be affected because they have succumbed to their own personal statements and only regard their own motivations. Isn't that basically how our political arena works, screw the people, lets see where we can benefit. Very blinding and scary isn't it.........


From: novemunusunus@no-spam (Castor and Pollux Towers)
Subject: Re: New York to Open First U.S. Public School for Gays
Date: 11 Aug 2003 14:21:31 -0700

Obwon <ob110ob@no-spam> wrote in message news:<dr0fjv4fvcjqorotg4r48ro6f5oafsbvt9@no-spam>...

> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:06:50 GMT, ByTor <ByTor@no-spam>
> wrote:
> > >In article <ps27jv0o88ucdefaq9dmmvr0oab7pffs4p@no-spam>, ob110ob@no-spam > >says... while attaching C4 explosives to computer and foaming at the > >mouth!
> >
> >> Oh come off it... > >
> >Curious question for ya.....I've basically followed your thread.
> >
> >What type of "security" would you propose for this "special" school?
> >Who will foot the bill?
> >I mean if they are targeted as much as is stated(which I'm not > >disputing), would'nt special security be an issue?......
> > That's another question entirely since the "targeting" under > discussion is of a kind that exists when gays are in the public > environment that this is supposed to correct. As someone else > here said, being located in Greenwich Village, there's an > extremely low expectation of outsider attacks. So no, I don't > see any reason to think that special security is needed.

That's like saying the risk of terrorist attacks against Americans is low because they are in America.

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