NYC POLITICS 608 RE NEW YORK TO OPEN FIRST U S PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR GAYS
From: Obwon (ob110ob@no-spam)
Subject: Re: New York to Open First U.S. Public School for Gays
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:26:20 GMT


On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:36:17 -0700, Each Hero Sues Ookie <EachHeroSuesOokie@no-spam> wrote:

>On 7/31/03 7:52 AM, in article 7jshivog8h6elsv1h0gto2d1r16clehqul@no-spam >"Obwon" <ob110ob@no-spam> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:55:15 -0700, Each Hero Sues Ookie >> <EachHeroSuesOokie@no-spam> wrote:
>> >>> On 7/30/03 1:08 AM, in article 1fyvwef.1ylel9h1gbf134N%usenet@no-spam >>> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@no-spam> wrote:
>>> >>>> Each Hero Sues Ookie <EachHeroSuesOokie@no-spam> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> On 7/29/03 10:08 PM, in article 1fyvpcz.13jmhd41fevctgN%usenet@no-spam >>>>> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@no-spam> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>> Each Hero Sues Ookie <EachHeroSuesOokie@no-spam> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/29/03 3:33 PM, in article 1fyv5o7.3z8mxi1aitnwlN%usenet@no-spam >>>>>>> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@no-spam> wrote:
>>>>>>>> whit <whit@no-spam> wrote:
>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>> it's wrong, it's against everything we have learned in the last >>>>>>>>> several decades about equality, fairness, and justice. and it has no >>>>>>>>> place in a public school.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a really unfortunate comparison, but do you believe that the >>>>>>>> developmentally-disabled should be mainstreamed?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. And if they flunk out, they should take their voucher to school >>>>>>> that meets their (special) needs.
>>>>>> >>>>>> So creating a proper learning environment in the first place isn't part >>>>>> of your plan.
>>>>> >>>>> Meeting every special need? No.
>>>> >>>> Why not?
>>>> >>>> You advocate giving them a voucher to meet every special need, but you >>>> don't advocate meeting every special need in public school. What's the >>>> difference?
>>> >>> That's not the way government should work. You have a special need for a >>> road from your house to the public library, but that wouldn't be a very >>> efficient expenditure. So instead the government builds roads (or meets the >>> needs) of the largest population segment. Could the government give you a >>> voucher to pave a dirt road that connects your house to the thoroughfare?
>>> Could the government give a mentally disabled kid a voucher to go to a >>> private school to meet his needs? Yes, if they can afford it.
>>> >> >> Funny you should mention it... The state built the "private"
>> Public road that connects the Rockefella estate to the main >> highway; I remember reading somewhere. While the road is >> supposed to be public, the only people likely to use it would >> have to be visitors to the estate, it just doesn't go anywhere >> else. :-D >
>Quite a rip-off. Would that be Jay Rockefeller?
>
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