NYC POLITICS 123 TODAY S FOUNDER QUOTE SOCIALISM ELIMINATES COMPETITIVE SPIRIT IN EDUCATION CAPITALISM NO VICTORY NO FAME ONLY CONSENSUS AND MEDIOCRITY
From: "CB" (CB@no-spam)
Subject: Today's Founder Quote: Socialism eliminates competitive spirit in Education & Capitalism. No victory, no fame, only consensus and mediocrity
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:26:55 -0400


Today's Founder Quote:

"Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."
--Thomas Paine ____________________

Socialism aims to eliminate competitive spirit in Education & Capitalism. No victory, no fame, no profit, no wealth, only consensus, mediocrity and servitude. Liberalism and Socialism aim to reduce the competitive nature of man, create dependence of Government and thus furnish the means by which we suffer.

CB "The first act of man, when he looked around and saw himself a creature which he did not make, and a world furnished for his reception, must have been devotion, and devotion must ever continue sacred to every individual man, as it appears right to him; and governments do mischief by interfering."
--Thomas Paine

From: Rich Travsky (traRvEsky@no-spam)
Subject: Today's Founder Quote: Con-servatism Thrives On Keeping The People In
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:59:26 -0600

Today's Founder Quote:

"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives.
A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both."
- James Madison (Fourth President of the United States)

http://www.statesman.com/business/content/news/070803/0708sept11.html
WASHINGTON— Leaders of the federal commission examining how al Qaeda pulled off the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks warned Tuesday that their investigation is stymied by a lack of cooperation from government agencies and that they could miss their deadline.

The commission is still waiting for key documents and briefings from the White House and federal agencies some six months after Congress ordered the commission to conduct an exhaustive review of how the federal government failed to detect al-Qaida's impending attacks on New York and Washington.

"Time is slipping by," said Thomas H. Kean, the chairman of the commission and former Republican governor of New Jersey. "Every day lost complicates our work. Extensive and prompt cooperation from the U.S. government ...
is absolutely essential."


From: Carol Lee Smith (human@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Today's Founder Quote: Con-servatism Thrives On Keeping The People In The Dark
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:32:53 -0500

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Rich Travsky wrote:

> Today's Founder Quote:

> "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance,
Now that's wishful thinking on Madison's part. He wouldn't be very happy about the ignorance some people show in this forum.

> and a people who mean to be > their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives.
> A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring > it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both."
> - James Madison (Fourth President of the United States)

From "Letter to W.T. Barry, August 4, 1822. Taken from Introduction (Section II) of A Citizen's Guide on Using the Freedom of Information Act and the Privacy Act of 1974 to Request Government Records formatted by the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau of the Federal Communication Commission."