BIT LISTSERV IBM-MAIN 15416 RE INFRASTRUCTURE SPECIALISTS II MAINFRAME 13 15 HR
From: Gary@no-spam (Gary Green)
Subject: RE: Infrastructure Specialists II - Mainframe =- 13- 15 / hr.
Date: 5 May 2004 12:10:32 -0700


Sorry, I don't buy it. And I do look at the big picture. I've worked in Tennessee and its neighbor North Carolina for clients over the years. Even did a few stints in LA (Hollywood and some other place which escapes me at the moment). The systems programming salaries in these "other" areas were higher or lower than they were here in the Philly area, but not that much,
maybe 15-20%. (I guess 20% is a LOT...)

To me it's a case of perceived value with a modicum of "trolling" by some companies to get what they want for as low an expense as they can; which is their right and duty. In the 80's and early 90's "our" value was perceived to be high; after all, we kept the machines running and supported those that supported the programmers that supported the users that supported the business. Since then, our salaries have been compressed because the value of our services/skills has been reduced. It's just the nature the beast.
(life)

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Behalf Of Edward E. Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 2:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@no-spam
Subject: Re: Infrastructure Specialists II - Mainframe =- 13- 15 / hr.

Gary Green wrote:

>It's right up there with a posting from Tennessee looking for a Senior >Systems type with decades of experience on just about every system and >sub-system in the MVS world and was willing to pay "up to" $23.00 per hour.
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You really need to look at the big picture when comparing salaries across the country and/or the world.

According to http://www.realtor.org/Research.nsf/files/REL03Q4T.pdf/$FILE/REL03Q4T.pdf,
the 2003 median home price in Chattanooga was $117K while the price in LA was $355K for the same period. Using that metric for comparison,
$23/hr in Chattanooga is worth almost $70/hr in LA -- at least when trying to buy a house. Add to that the effects of progressive taxation at the Federal level and the fact that Tennessee levies no state income tax (other than for interest and dividends) vs California's outrageous 9.3% and that $23/hr in Chattanooga gets closer to $90/hr in LA!

It's not what you get paid. It's what you can buy with what the government lets you keep that matters.

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