On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 21:20:33 -0700, "Michael R. McAfee"
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>Uncle Samuel wrote:
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>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 20:54:26 -0700, "Michael R. McAfee"
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>>>Uncle Samuel wrote:
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>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:45:36 -0700, "Michael R. McAfee"
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>>>>>Uncle Samuel wrote:
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>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 09:02:59 -0700, "Michael R. McAfee"
>>>>>><mrmcafee@no-spam> wrote:
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>>>>>>>Socialism is an economic term, not a political term.
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>>>>>>You're an idiot Mikey.
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>>>>>I'm afraid not, Oinkle. You, however, have supported my position by
>>>>>posting this definition. Thanks!
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>>>>An utter clay-head.
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>>>>>>"Socialism, economic and social doctrine, political movement inspired
>>>>>>by this doctrine, and system or order established when this doctrine
>>>>>>is organized in a society. The socialist doctrine demands state
>>>>>>ownership and control of the fundamental means of production and
>>>>>>distribution of wealth, to be achieved by reconstruction of the
>>>>>>existing capitalist or other political system of a country through
>>>>>>peaceful, democratic, and parliamentary means. The doctrine
>>>>>>specifically advocates nationalization of natural resources, basic
>>>>>>industries, banking and credit facilities, and public utilities. It
>>>>>>places special emphasis on the nationalization of monopolized branches
>>>>>>of industry and trade, viewing monopolies as inimical to the public
>>>>>>welfare. It also advocates state ownership of corporations in which
>>>>>>the ownership function has passed from stockholders to managerial
>>>>>>personnel. Smaller and less vital enterprises would be left under
>>>>>>private ownership, and privately held cooperatives would be
>>>>>>encouraged.
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>>>>>>These are the tenets of the Socialist party of the U.S., the Labour
>>>>>>party of Britain, and labor or social democratic parties of various
>>>>>>other countries. Therefore they constitute the centrist position held
>>>>>>by most socialists. Some political movements calling themselves
>>>>>>socialist, however, insist on the complete abolition of the capitalist
>>>>>>system and of private profit, and at the other extreme are socialist
>>>>>>programs having objectives entailing even fewer changes in the social
>>>>>>order than those outlined above. The ultimate goal of all socialists,
>>>>>>however, is a classless cooperative commonwealth in every nation of
>>>>>>the world."
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>>>>>>© 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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>>>>>As anyone who can read and comprehend can see, the above definition
>>>>>addresses economic forms rather than forms of government. "Socialism" is
>>>>>therefore an economic theory, not a governmental theory. Socialism can
>>>>>be practiced by any form of governmental model; democracy, monarchy,
>>>>>theocracy, communism, fascism ... you name it.
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>>>>This level of craven revisionism is beyond crass, it's heinous.
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>>>>Keywords:
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>>>>~ economic and *social doctrine)
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>>>>~ *nationalization* of monopolized branches of *industry and trade*
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>>>>~ *labor or social democratic parties* of various other countries
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>>>>~ *classless cooperative commonwealth* in every nation of the world
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>>>>Now I don't know if spotlighting these salient modifiers will prompt
>>>>any higher level of honesty from you, I suspect not.
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>>>>Your hopeless merging of disparate political systems is juvenile at
>>>>best.
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>>>>No matter, for those readers who do give a rip about accuracy:
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>>>>"Democracy (Greek demos, the people ; kratein, to rule ), political
>>>>system in which the people of a country rule through any form of
>>>>government they choose to establish. In modern democracies, supreme
>>>>authority is exercised for the most part by representatives elected by
>>>>popular suffrage. The representatives may be supplanted by the
>>>>electorate according to the legal procedures of recall and referendum,
>>>>and they are, at least in principle, responsible to the electorate. In
>>>>many democracies, such as the United States, both the executive head
>>>>of government and the legislature are elected. In typical
>>>>constitutional monarchies such as the United Kingdom and Norway, only
>>>>the legislators are elected, and from their ranks a cabinet and a
>>>>prime minister are chosen.
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>>>>Although often used interchangeably, the terms democracy and republic
>>>>are not synonymous. Both systems delegate the power to govern to their
>>>>elected representatives. In a republic, however, these officials are
>>>>expected to act on their own best judgment of the needs and interests
>>>>of the country. The officials in a democracy more generally and
>>>>directly reflect the known or ascertained views of their constituents,
>>>>sometimes subordinating their own judgment."
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>>>>© 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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>>>>Monarchy, form of government in which one person has the hereditary
>>>>right to rule as head of state during his or her lifetime; the term is
>>>>also applied to the state so governed. The power of the monarch varies
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>>>>from absolute to very limited; the latter is exemplified in modern-day
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>>>>constitutional monarchies. Monarchs include such rulers as kings and
>>>>queens, emperors and empresses, tsars, and kaisers.
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>>>>© 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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>>>>Theocracy (Greek theokratia, government by a god ), constitution, or
>>>>polity, of a country in which God is regarded as the sole sovereign
>>>>and the laws of the realm are seen as divine commands. By extension a
>>>>theocracy is a country in which control is in the hands of the clergy.
>>>>The typical example of a theocracy is that established by the Hebrew
>>>>lawgiver Moses. Later attempts to found theocratic societies were made
>>>>by the French theologian John Calvin and the English soldier-statesman
>>>>Oliver Cromwell. The caliphate, in Muslim communities, was a
>>>>theocracy. The rule of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in Iran is an
>>>>example of a theocratic government in modern times.
>>>>
>>>>© 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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>>>>Communism, a theory and system of social and political organization
>>>>that was a major force in world politics for much of the 20th century.
>>>>As a political movement, communism sought to overthrow capitalism
>>>>through a workers revolution and establish a system in which property
>>>>is owned by the community as a whole rather than by individuals. In
>>>>theory, communism would create a classless society of abundance and
>>>>freedom, in which all people enjoy equal social and economic status.
>>>>In practice, communist regimes have taken the form of coercive,
>>>>authoritarian governments that cared little for the plight of the
>>>>working class and sought above all else to preserve their own hold on
>>>>power.
>>>>
>>>>© 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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>>>>Fascism, modern political ideology that seeks to regenerate the
>>>>social, economic, and cultural life of a country by basing it on a
>>>>heightened sense of national belonging or ethnic identity. Fascism
>>>>rejects liberal ideas such as freedom and individual rights, and often
>>>>presses for the destruction of elections, legislatures, and other
>>>>elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of fascism,
>>>>attempts to build fascist societies have led to wars and persecutions
>>>>that caused millions of deaths. As a result, fascism is strongly
>>>>associated with right-wing fanaticism, racism, totalitarianism, and
>>>>violence.
>>>>© 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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>>>>Say goodnight Mikey.
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>>>Thanks, yet again, Oinkle! You continue to make my point. Socialism is
>>>an economic theory, not a form of government.
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>>Mikey, you're a weapons grade moron.
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>Ahhh. Sweet victory!!!
If that's what you call making a public ass of yerself...
"Uncle Samuel" <stars@no-spam> wrote in message
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> If that's what you call making a public ass of yerself...
No, it's what thinking people know after witnessing him wipe the floor
with your sorry, lying, NeoCon backside.
Snicker.
