On 17 Jan 2004 10:50:47 -0800, rexy@no-spam (rex) wrote:
>http://rexcurry.net says thanks to all fans the historic pics of the
>original socialist salute to the U.S. flag. They are posted on the
>website.
> Not a single media outlet responded either to a request for pics,
>nor even to the request for a comment about why the media NEVER
>publish and write about the pics. From the media there was only
>deathly silence.
> The emails asked major media outlets for archive photos of
>government school students saluting the U.S. flag with the original
>salute (the same salute later adopted by the horrid National Socialist
>German Workers' Party). Here is another excerpt: "If your archives do
>not have an original salute photo then I want to ask why you don't
>have such a historically significant scene in your files? (Let me
>know if you don't have a photo, and I will provide you with one or
>more). The Rex Curry photography collection at http://rexcurry.net is
>the only site that is attempting to collect and publish photos showing
>the original socialist salute."
> I am an attorney and I collect historical photos showing how
>socialism harmed the U.S., and I want to add original U.S. flag salute
>photos to my collection.
> Why don't major media outlets ever publish such photos? Is it
>another media coverup of socialist horrors in the history of the U.S.?
> The original salute was created in 1892 by a self-proclaimed
>socialist (Francis Bellamy) to promote socialism in the most
>socialistic institution -government schools. When the U.S.
>Constitution was written, most people received private educations.
>Bellamy lived during the time when schools were becoming socialized
>heavily in the U.S. It was a view later shared by the National
>Socialist German Workers' Party.
> Bellamy's original socialist salute to the U.S. flag resembled the
>salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The National
>Socialist German Workers' Party was aware of the U.S.'s salute when it
>adopted its salute.
> Bellamy, belonged to a group known for "Nationalism," whose
>members wanted the federal government to nationalize most of the
>American economy. He saw government schools as a means to that end.
>It was a view later shared by the National Socialist German Workers'
>Party.
> The media have many opportunities to print original salute photos
>and stories in news coverage every Flag Day, or about the pledge of
>allegiance in court litigation, or at the opening of government
>schools every year, etc. The chilling history is rarely mentioned in
>major media outlets, and the historic photos are never published.
> I don't know of any major media outlets that have ever printed
>such a photograph and I bet they won't print it even after reading
>this letter.
>
>
>(For more ideas on liberty and the libertarian philosophy see
>http://members.ij.net/rex and http://rexcurry.net from Rex Curry at
>rexy@no-spam or ecurry@no-spam or rexatious@no-spam
Fascinating archival photos, wonder if they're real or retouched...
Additional background data on the pledge's author, Bellamy:
http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm
Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original
Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he
is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of
the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and
Equality (1897).
Francis Bellamy in his sermons and lectures and Edward Bellamy in his
novels and articles described in detail how the middle class could
create a planned economy with political, social and economic equality
for all. The government would run a peace time economy similar to our
present military industrial complex.
The Pledge was published in the September 8th issue of The Youth's
Companion, the leading family magazine and the Reader's Digest of its
day. Its owner and editor, Daniel Ford, had hired Francis in 1891 as
his assistant when Francis was pressured into leaving his baptist
church in Boston because of his socialist sermons. As a member of his
congregation, Ford had enjoyed Francis's sermons. Ford later founded
the liberal and often controversial Ford Hall Forum, located in
downtown Boston.
In 1892 Francis Bellamy was also a chairman of a committee of state
superintendents of education in the National Education Association. As
its chairman, he prepared the program for the public schools'
quadricentennial celebration for Columbus Day in 1892. He structured
this public school program around a flag raising ceremony and a flag
salute - his 'Pledge of Allegiance.'
His original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag
and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.' He considered placing the word,
'equality,' in his Pledge, but knew that the state superintendents of
education on his committee were against equality for women and African
Americans. [ * 'to' added in October, 1892. ]
Dr. Mortimer Adler, American philosopher and last living founder of
the Great Books program at Saint John's College, has analyzed these
ideas in his book, The Six Great Ideas. He argues that the three great
ideas of the American political tradition are 'equality, liberty and
justice for all.' 'Justice' mediates between the often conflicting
goals of 'liberty' and 'equality.'
In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership
of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution,
changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United
States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was
ignored.
In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added
the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a
patriotic oath and a public prayer.
On 19 Jan 2004 18:51:01 -0800, rexy@no-spam (rex) wrote:
>Thank you for your comments.
You're welcome. I rarely see anyone who's willing to out an historical
skeleton as thoroughly as you have. As you may have gathered I despise
socialism, and thus your research was a huge eye opener.
Suffice to say that at least the pledge has been modified from it's
startling origins, that much we can be glad of.
>you might find the following comments
>amusing from a fan of my website that I posted at
>http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge_heart.html
>
> A fan of http://rexcurry.net writes in: "The original socialist
>salute to the U.S. flag sometimes had extra motions to it. For
>example, in one high school in 1938, each student said 'I pledge
>allegiance' with his right hand over his heart, and then extended the
>arm to the flag for the duration of the spiel, with the palm up. It
>was as if each student had removed his own heart from his chest and
>offered it to the government through its flag symbol. What a scary
>symbolism THAT is to tie into socialism's philsophy of self-sacrifice
>to the state and mass slaughter as pointed out in your graphic art of
>the socialist trio of atrocities." (
>http://members.ij.net/rex/socialists.jpg )
>
> The fan continues: "So it makes sense that after the National
>Socialist German Workers' Party adopted the same salute, and then the
>U.S. became aware of the socialist atrocities of the National
>Socialist German Workers' Party, that individuals switched to holding
>the hand over the heart -as if protecting the heart from being ripped
>out by the government, and each individual refusing to sacrifice
>himself/herself to socialism."
>
> In conclusion the fan makes these suggestions for those who
>continue to salute and recite the pledge:
>"Always do it while armed --in case self-defense becomes necessary.
>Begin the pledge in the usual modern manner by placing the right hand
>over the heart.
>Next, overlap the right hand with the left hand over the heart (for
>extra protection) and then DUCK!!!!!
>While in a crouched position, bob and weave and RUN FOR COVER !!!! "
>
>Good luck.
>
>For more info on the original socilialist pledge to the U.S. flag see
>http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge1.html
I'm somewhat disturbed that I seem to have been the only person to
respond to your post. Apathy is still the coin of the realm...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:59:53 -0700, grandwazoo <grand@no-spam>
wrote:
>Uncle Samuel wrote:
>> On 19 Jan 2004 18:51:01 -0800, rexy@no-spam (rex) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thank you for your comments.
>>
>>
>> You're welcome. I rarely see anyone who's willing to out an historical
>> skeleton as thoroughly as you have. As you may have gathered I despise
>> socialism, and thus your research was a huge eye opener.
>>
>> Suffice to say that at least the pledge has been modified from it's
>> startling origins, that much we can be glad of.
>>
>>
>>>you might find the following comments
>>>amusing from a fan of my website that I posted at
>>>http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge_heart.html
>>>
>>> A fan of http://rexcurry.net writes in: "The original socialist
>>>salute to the U.S. flag sometimes had extra motions to it. For
>>>example, in one high school in 1938, each student said 'I pledge
>>>allegiance' with his right hand over his heart, and then extended the
>>>arm to the flag for the duration of the spiel, with the palm up. It
>>>was as if each student had removed his own heart from his chest and
>>>offered it to the government through its flag symbol. What a scary
>>>symbolism THAT is to tie into socialism's philsophy of self-sacrifice
>>>to the state and mass slaughter as pointed out in your graphic art of
>>>the socialist trio of atrocities." (
>>>http://members.ij.net/rex/socialists.jpg )
>>>
>>> The fan continues: "So it makes sense that after the National
>>>Socialist German Workers' Party adopted the same salute, and then the
>>>U.S. became aware of the socialist atrocities of the National
>>>Socialist German Workers' Party, that individuals switched to holding
>>>the hand over the heart -as if protecting the heart from being ripped
>>>out by the government, and each individual refusing to sacrifice
>>>himself/herself to socialism."
>>>
>>> In conclusion the fan makes these suggestions for those who
>>>continue to salute and recite the pledge:
>>>"Always do it while armed --in case self-defense becomes necessary.
>>>Begin the pledge in the usual modern manner by placing the right hand
>>>over the heart.
>>>Next, overlap the right hand with the left hand over the heart (for
>>>extra protection) and then DUCK!!!!!
>>>While in a crouched position, bob and weave and RUN FOR COVER !!!! "
>>>
>>>Good luck.
>>>
>>>For more info on the original socilialist pledge to the U.S. flag see
>>>http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge1.html
>>
>>
>> I'm somewhat disturbed that I seem to have been the only person to
>> respond to your post. Apathy is still the coin of the realm...
>
>Symbolism, mere symbolism.
Yet very telling.
