http://rexcurry.net says thanks to all fans the historic pics of the
original socialist salute to the U.S. flag. They are posted on the
website.
Not a single media outlet responded either to a request for pics,
nor even to the request for a comment about why the media NEVER
publish and write about the pics. From the media there was only
deathly silence.
The emails asked major media outlets for archive photos of
government school students saluting the U.S. flag with the original
salute (the same salute later adopted by the horrid National Socialist
German Workers' Party). Here is another excerpt: "If your archives do
not have an original salute photo then I want to ask why you don't
have such a historically significant scene in your files? (Let me
know if you don't have a photo, and I will provide you with one or
more). The Rex Curry photography collection at http://rexcurry.net is
the only site that is attempting to collect and publish photos showing
the original socialist salute."
I am an attorney and I collect historical photos showing how
socialism harmed the U.S., and I want to add original U.S. flag salute
photos to my collection.
Why don't major media outlets ever publish such photos? Is it
another media coverup of socialist horrors in the history of the U.S.?
The original salute was created in 1892 by a self-proclaimed
socialist (Francis Bellamy) to promote socialism in the most
socialistic institution -government schools. When the U.S.
Constitution was written, most people received private educations.
Bellamy lived during the time when schools were becoming socialized
heavily in the U.S. It was a view later shared by the National
Socialist German Workers' Party.
Bellamy's original socialist salute to the U.S. flag resembled the
salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The National
Socialist German Workers' Party was aware of the U.S.'s salute when it
adopted its salute.
Bellamy, belonged to a group known for "Nationalism," whose
members wanted the federal government to nationalize most of the
American economy. He saw government schools as a means to that end.
It was a view later shared by the National Socialist German Workers'
Party.
The media have many opportunities to print original salute photos
and stories in news coverage every Flag Day, or about the pledge of
allegiance in court litigation, or at the opening of government
schools every year, etc. The chilling history is rarely mentioned in
major media outlets, and the historic photos are never published.
I don't know of any major media outlets that have ever printed
such a photograph and I bet they won't print it even after reading
this letter.
(For more ideas on liberty and the libertarian philosophy see
http://members.ij.net/rex and http://rexcurry.net from Rex Curry at
rexy@no-spam or ecurry@no-spam or rexatious@no-spam
Thanks. Your comments make the socialist salute even more frightening.
You reminded me of this article that I wrote: Was the National
Socialist German Workers' Party influenced by the U.S.A.? In 1892 a
self-proclaimed socialist created the pledge of allegiance and the
original salute to the U.S. flag. The salute included an outstretched
arm (the only place with secret photos of the original socialist
salute to the U.S. flag is http://rexcurry.net ). The National
Socialist German Workers' Party was aware of the salute to the U.S.
flag when it adopted its salute. The salute was so similar that the
U.S. changed its salute after the monstrous National Socialist German
Workers' Party tried to impose socialism in Europe.
The self-proclaimed socialist Francis Bellamy proposed the
original socialist salute and the pledge after he joined the staff of
the magazine "Youth's Companion." The salute and pledge were created
by Bellamy to promote socialism among the youth in the most
socialistic institution -government schools. When the U.S.
Constitution was written, most children received private educations.
Bellamy lived during the time when schools were becoming socialized
heavily in the United States. Bellamy believed that the best way to
promote socialism was by removing children from their parents and
placing them in socialized schools (government schools) and other
youth groups. It was a view later shared by the National Socialist
German Workers' Party and its youth programs.
Socialists use a sense of belonging to seduce people. Socialist
schools (government schools) are used to destroy individuality and
create dependence on government. Bellamy had often lectured on the
so-called "virtues of socialism and the evils of capitalism."
Adherents of the National Socialist German Workers' Party did the
same.
Bellamy was the first cousin of another socialist, Edward Bellamy.
Edward Bellamy's futuristic novel, "Looking Backward," published in
1888, described a utopian Boston in the year 2000. The book spawned a
socialist movement in Boston known as "Nationalism," whose members
wanted the federal government to nationalize most of the American
economy. Francis Bellamy was a member of the "Nationalism" movement
and a vice president of its socialist auxiliary group.
The Bellamys saw government schools as a means to their socialist
"Nationalism." Those were views later shared by the National
Socialist German Workers' Party. For more info on the horrid
National Socialist German Workers' Party see
http://members.ij.net/rex/swastikamain.html
Uncle Samuel <stars@no-spam> wrote in message news:<345m00lqfk9dhjoj77tas726sckhpgsbrv@no-spam>...
> On 17 Jan 2004 17:56:31 -0800, rexy@no-spam (rex) wrote:
>
> >Thanks. Your comments make the socialist salute even more frightening.
> > You reminded me of this article that I wrote: Was the National
> >Socialist German Workers' Party influenced by the U.S.A.? In 1892 a
> >self-proclaimed socialist created the pledge of allegiance and the
> >original salute to the U.S. flag. The salute included an outstretched
> >arm (the only place with secret photos of the original socialist
> >salute to the U.S. flag is http://rexcurry.net ).
>
> Yet you list those photos as being from the state of Alabama
> historical archives?
>
> If so wouldn't they be available there too?
>
> If not, how do we have any verification that they are authentic?
>
> And more importantly, how did you get hold of them?
Only the one marked Alabama is known to be from there. Presumably it
is still available. The other was donated by a fan of
http://rexcurry.net and I didn't inquire of its source beyond that.
Of course, no one disputes that children were forced to salute in that
manner in government schools from 1892 into the 40's, so the next
question is how many photos are there and where are they and why don't
we ever see them? My site is the only one that seeks, collects and
displays them. If you find more examples please send them in.
> > The National
> >Socialist German Workers' Party was aware of the salute to the U.S.
> >flag when it adopted its salute. The salute was so similar that the
> >U.S. changed its salute after the monstrous National Socialist German
> >Workers' Party tried to impose socialism in Europe.
> > The self-proclaimed socialist Francis Bellamy proposed the
> >original socialist salute and the pledge after he joined the staff of
> >the magazine "Youth's Companion." The salute and pledge were created
> >by Bellamy to promote socialism among the youth in the most
> >socialistic institution -government schools. When the U.S.
> >Constitution was written, most children received private educations.
>
> Obviously, it was after all too young a nation to have a fully
> developed public school system.
You should use the term "government school system" instead of "public
school system" as it is more accurate. You could say that "Obviously,
it was after all too young a nation to have a fully developed
government church system." But we are fortunate that a government
church system was banned in the constitution, as should have been
banned government schools, and I suspect the authors of the
constitution would have if they had anticipated the government school
system. http://members.ij.net/rex/schoolsmain.html
> >Bellamy lived during the time when schools were becoming socialized
> >heavily in the United States. Bellamy believed that the best way to
> >promote socialism was by removing children from their parents and
> >placing them in socialized schools (government schools) and other
> >youth groups. It was a view later shared by the National Socialist
> >German Workers' Party and its youth programs.
>
> It was also what we did to native Americans after the reservations
> were created.
Yes, you are correct that socialism was horrible for native Americans
too, though not as much as with the socialist trio of atrocities at
http://members.ij.net/rex/socialists.html
thanks.
Thank you for your comments. you might find the following comments
amusing from a fan of my website that I posted at
http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge_heart.html
A fan of http://rexcurry.net writes in: "The original socialist
salute to the U.S. flag sometimes had extra motions to it. For
example, in one high school in 1938, each student said 'I pledge
allegiance' with his right hand over his heart, and then extended the
arm to the flag for the duration of the spiel, with the palm up. It
was as if each student had removed his own heart from his chest and
offered it to the government through its flag symbol. What a scary
symbolism THAT is to tie into socialism's philsophy of self-sacrifice
to the state and mass slaughter as pointed out in your graphic art of
the socialist trio of atrocities." (
http://members.ij.net/rex/socialists.jpg )
The fan continues: "So it makes sense that after the National
Socialist German Workers' Party adopted the same salute, and then the
U.S. became aware of the socialist atrocities of the National
Socialist German Workers' Party, that individuals switched to holding
the hand over the heart -as if protecting the heart from being ripped
out by the government, and each individual refusing to sacrifice
himself/herself to socialism."
In conclusion the fan makes these suggestions for those who
continue to salute and recite the pledge:
"Always do it while armed --in case self-defense becomes necessary.
Begin the pledge in the usual modern manner by placing the right hand
over the heart.
Next, overlap the right hand with the left hand over the heart (for
extra protection) and then DUCK!!!!!
While in a crouched position, bob and weave and RUN FOR COVER !!!! "
Good luck.
For more info on the original socilialist pledge to the U.S. flag see
http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge1.html
Uncle Samuel wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2004 18:51:01 -0800, rexy@no-spam (rex) wrote:
>
>
>>Thank you for your comments.
>
>
> You're welcome. I rarely see anyone who's willing to out an historical
> skeleton as thoroughly as you have. As you may have gathered I despise
> socialism, and thus your research was a huge eye opener.
>
> Suffice to say that at least the pledge has been modified from it's
> startling origins, that much we can be glad of.
>
>
>>you might find the following comments
>>amusing from a fan of my website that I posted at
>>http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge_heart.html
>>
>> A fan of http://rexcurry.net writes in: "The original socialist
>>salute to the U.S. flag sometimes had extra motions to it. For
>>example, in one high school in 1938, each student said 'I pledge
>>allegiance' with his right hand over his heart, and then extended the
>>arm to the flag for the duration of the spiel, with the palm up. It
>>was as if each student had removed his own heart from his chest and
>>offered it to the government through its flag symbol. What a scary
>>symbolism THAT is to tie into socialism's philsophy of self-sacrifice
>>to the state and mass slaughter as pointed out in your graphic art of
>>the socialist trio of atrocities." (
>>http://members.ij.net/rex/socialists.jpg )
>>
>> The fan continues: "So it makes sense that after the National
>>Socialist German Workers' Party adopted the same salute, and then the
>>U.S. became aware of the socialist atrocities of the National
>>Socialist German Workers' Party, that individuals switched to holding
>>the hand over the heart -as if protecting the heart from being ripped
>>out by the government, and each individual refusing to sacrifice
>>himself/herself to socialism."
>>
>> In conclusion the fan makes these suggestions for those who
>>continue to salute and recite the pledge:
>>"Always do it while armed --in case self-defense becomes necessary.
>>Begin the pledge in the usual modern manner by placing the right hand
>>over the heart.
>>Next, overlap the right hand with the left hand over the heart (for
>>extra protection) and then DUCK!!!!!
>>While in a crouched position, bob and weave and RUN FOR COVER !!!! "
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>For more info on the original socilialist pledge to the U.S. flag see
>>http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge1.html
>
>
> I'm somewhat disturbed that I seem to have been the only person to
> respond to your post. Apathy is still the coin of the realm...
Symbolism, mere symbolism.
