AUS COMPUTERS 6343 SELLING PORN OVER THE INTERNET IN AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 01:00:25 +1000

From: jason_ (jason_@no-spam)
Subject: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was wondering about mail order over the web.

Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?






















From: Gregory Toomey (nospam@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 01:48:58 +1000

jason_ wrote:

> I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was > wondering about mail order over the web.
> > Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?

As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to industrial suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.

Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution channels would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.

gtoomey

From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 04:48:13 +1000

jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message news:42481c0b$1_1@no-spam
> I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was wondering > about mail order over the web.

> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?

Nope.

From: "Highlandish" (ckreskay_CURSEING@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:59:16 +1000

Quoth The Raven "jason_"<jason_@no-spam> in 42481c0b$1_1@no-spam >I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was > wondering about mail order over the web.
>
> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?

you selling shower pics of your sister? i have been selling pictures of your mum for ages. maybe we can team up
-- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.

Take out the _CURSEING to reply to me

From: "Uncle Bully" (wakeupcall@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:36:11 +1000

"Gregory Toomey" <nospam@no-spam> wrote in message news:3aqnbeF6cdbu6U1@no-spam > jason_ wrote:
>
>> I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >> wondering about mail order over the web.
>>
>> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>
> As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to industrial > suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>
> Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution > channels > would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.

Handycam and backpackers. It's not that hard if you some spare cash.


Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:59:31 +1000
From: jason_ (jason_@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

>>I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >>wondering about mail order over the web.
>>
>>Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
> > > As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to industrial > suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
> > Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution channels > would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.

The ACT and NT only thing is for physical shops as far as I know?

I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?


Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:11:18 +1000
From: jason_ (jason_@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

jason_ wrote:
>>> I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >>> wondering about mail order over the web.
>>>
>>> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to >> industrial >> suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>>
>> Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution >> channels >> would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.
> > > The ACT and NT only thing is for physical shops as far as I know?
> > I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of > warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?

I can't seem to find any policies on the internet. Wonder what government dept to contact about this?


Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:49:33 +0800
From: Oldus Fartus (denisand@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

jason_ wrote:
>>> I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >>> wondering about mail order over the web.
>>>
>>> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to >> industrial >> suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>>
>> Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution >> channels >> would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.
> > > The ACT and NT only thing is for physical shops as far as I know?
> > I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of > warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?

Have a read of http://libertus.net/censor/hist20on.html Bit long, but has links to other resources.

-- Cheers Oldus Fartus

From: "Stephen Oakes" (soakes1@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:36:45 GMT

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote...
>> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>
> Nope.

Yes.

It's called a "licence to sell porn through a website". I can sell you one if you want. Unfortunately I am out of the correct forms at the moment, but they will accept a dog licence with the word "dog" crossed out and "to sell porn through a website" written on in crayon.

--
Stephen Oakes

From: "Brad Hogan" (brad@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:37:26 GMT

"jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message news:4248c495$1_1@no-spam >>>I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >>>wondering about mail order over the web.
>>>
>>>Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>>
>>
>> As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to >> industrial >> suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>>
>> Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution >> channels >> would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.
>
> The ACT and NT only thing is for physical shops as far as I know?
>
> I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of > warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?

>> I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of >> warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?

Warehouses in NSW would be at risk of being in trouble for "publishing unrated material", or "publishing obscene material" (for the case of it being rated for publification in the ACT or NT at less than porn when they consider that it is ) , "publishing pornograhic rated material " for the case of it being rated for ACT or NT as porn.

They closed the loop hole that you could get it rated and then sell it as X rated porn. IF you say its porn you get in trouble even if its not actually X rated porn.

The physical presence of the enterprise in any state would get it in trouble in the state.

The Telecommunications Act or other federal act makes it illegal to sell porn on any service that can be said to be physically in Australia. "Using a telecommunications system for publification of obsence content" .. that sort of general wishy washy thing.

They dont call it porn, they call it "obscene" , "offensive" (although a movie that shows Hitler winning WW II could be said to be "offensive" ) ,
or "unrated" or rated XXX

From: "Brad Hogan" (brad@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:37:49 GMT

"Gregory Toomey" <nospam@no-spam> wrote in message news:3aqnbeF6cdbu6U1@no-spam > jason_ wrote:
>
>> I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >> wondering about mail order over the web.
>>
>> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>
> As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to industrial > suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>
> Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution > channels > would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.

Well that wouldnt be hard would it ??
Just buy license to them and download it over the internet and burn it to CD/DVD and sell it.

but you are running up against the laws in the states , and federal law.

federal law will make it hard for you to sell on the internet or use australia post.


Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:46:40 +1000
From: jason_ (jason_@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

Brad Hogan wrote:
> "jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message > news:4248c495$1_1@no-spam > >>>>I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >>>>wondering about mail order over the web.
>>>>
>>>>Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>>>
>>>
>>>As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to >>>industrial >>>suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>>>
>>>Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution >>>channels >>>would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.
>>
>>The ACT and NT only thing is for physical shops as far as I know?
>>
>>I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of >>warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?
> > >>>I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of >>>warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?
> > > Warehouses in NSW would be at risk of being in trouble for "publishing > unrated material", or "publishing obscene material" (for the case of it > being rated for publification in the ACT or NT at less than porn when they > consider that it is ) , "publishing pornograhic rated material " for the > case of it being rated for ACT or NT as porn.
> > They closed the loop hole that you could get it rated and then sell it as X > rated porn. IF you say its porn you get in trouble even if its not actually > X rated porn.
> > The physical presence of the enterprise in any state would get it in trouble > in the state.
> > The Telecommunications Act or other federal act makes it illegal to sell > porn on any service that can be said to be physically in Australia. "Using a > telecommunications system for publification of obsence content" .. that > sort of general wishy washy thing.
> > They dont call it porn, they call it "obscene" , "offensive" (although a > movie that shows Hitler winning WW II could be said to be "offensive" ) ,
> or "unrated" or rated XXX > >
OK but I assume these warehouses dont publish the material... they just stock it for resale... the material is probably published offshore?

Im still confused as to whether there are any laws governeing the sale of porn over the internet... I know there are laws governing physical shops (club x, etc)... but for businesses bases purely on internet sales?


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:05:05 +1000

"Stephen Oakes" <soakes1@no-spam> wrote in message news:xs82e.16404$C7.10214@no-spam >
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote...
>>> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Yes.

Nope.

> It's called a "licence to sell porn through a website". I can sell you one if
> you want. Unfortunately I am out of the correct forms at the moment, but they
> will accept a dog licence with the word "dog" crossed out and "to sell porn > through a website" written on in crayon.

Pathetic, really.

From: "FruitLoop" (Hyperactive@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:22:57 GMT

ITS SURE MORE AMUSING THAN YOUR TRIPE RODDLES
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote in message news:3atn74F6e4vdhU1@no-spam >
> "Stephen Oakes" <soakes1@no-spam> wrote in message > news:xs82e.16404$C7.10214@no-spam > >
> > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote...
> >>> Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
> >>
> >> Nope.
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Nope.
>
> > It's called a "licence to sell porn through a website". I can sell you one if > > you want. Unfortunately I am out of the correct forms at the moment,
but they > > will accept a dog licence with the word "dog" crossed out and "to sell porn > > through a website" written on in crayon.
>
> Pathetic, really.
>
>


From: "T.T." (tonyt92@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:49:34 GMT

"jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message news:42494e31_1@no-spam > Brad Hogan wrote:
>> "jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message >> news:4248c495$1_1@no-spam >>
>>>>>I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >>>>>wondering about mail order over the web.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to >>>>industrial >>>>suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>>>>
>>>>Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution >>>>channels >>>>would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.
>>>
>>>The ACT and NT only thing is for physical shops as far as I know?
>>>
>>>I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of >>>warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?
>>
>>
>>>>I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of >>>>warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?
>>
>>
>> Warehouses in NSW would be at risk of being in trouble for "publishing >> unrated material", or "publishing obscene material" (for the case of it >> being rated for publification in the ACT or NT at less than porn when >> they >> consider that it is ) , "publishing pornograhic rated material " for the >> case of it being rated for ACT or NT as porn.
>>
>> They closed the loop hole that you could get it rated and then sell it >> as X >> rated porn. IF you say its porn you get in trouble even if its not >> actually >> X rated porn.
>>
>> The physical presence of the enterprise in any state would get it in >> trouble >> in the state.
>>
>> The Telecommunications Act or other federal act makes it illegal to sell >> porn on any service that can be said to be physically in Australia. >> "Using a >> telecommunications system for publification of obsence content" .. that >> sort of general wishy washy thing.
>>
>> They dont call it porn, they call it "obscene" , "offensive" (although a >> movie that shows Hitler winning WW II could be said to be "offensive" ) >> ,
>> or "unrated" or rated XXX >>
>>
>
> OK but I assume these warehouses dont publish the material... they just > stock it for resale... the material is probably published offshore?
>
> Im still confused as to whether there are any laws governeing the sale of > porn over the internet... I know there are laws governing physical shops > (club x, etc)... but for businesses bases purely on internet sales?
>
>
If you even look like selling it the boys will be around and break your legs.

Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:47:30 +1000
From: jason_ (jason_@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

T.T. wrote:
> "jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message > news:42494e31_1@no-spam > >>Brad Hogan wrote:
>>
>>>"jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message >>>news:4248c495$1_1@no-spam >>>
>>>
>>>>>>I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was >>>>>>wondering about mail order over the web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as I know its ACT and NT only. In the ACT its limited to >>>>>industrial >>>>>suburbs & you will probably need a physical address.
>>>>>
>>>>>Where to you propose to get product? All the existing distribution >>>>>channels >>>>>would be VERY well guarded by the current merchandisers.
>>>>
>>>>The ACT and NT only thing is for physical shops as far as I know?
>>>>
>>>>I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of >>>>warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I'm not looking to make porn, just re-sell it. Theres plenty of >>>>>warehouses in NSW/ACT that supply it, so I figure why can't I resell it?
>>>
>>>
>>>Warehouses in NSW would be at risk of being in trouble for "publishing >>>unrated material", or "publishing obscene material" (for the case of it >>>being rated for publification in the ACT or NT at less than porn when >>>they >>>consider that it is ) , "publishing pornograhic rated material " for the >>>case of it being rated for ACT or NT as porn.
>>>
>>>They closed the loop hole that you could get it rated and then sell it >>>as X >>>rated porn. IF you say its porn you get in trouble even if its not >>>actually >>>X rated porn.
>>>
>>>The physical presence of the enterprise in any state would get it in >>>trouble >>>in the state.
>>>
>>>The Telecommunications Act or other federal act makes it illegal to sell >>>porn on any service that can be said to be physically in Australia. >>>"Using a >>>telecommunications system for publification of obsence content" .. that >>>sort of general wishy washy thing.
>>>
>>>They dont call it porn, they call it "obscene" , "offensive" (although a >>>movie that shows Hitler winning WW II could be said to be "offensive" ) >>>,
>>>or "unrated" or rated XXX >>>
>>>
>>
>>OK but I assume these warehouses dont publish the material... they just >>stock it for resale... the material is probably published offshore?
>>
>>Im still confused as to whether there are any laws governeing the sale of >>porn over the internet... I know there are laws governing physical shops >>(club x, etc)... but for businesses bases purely on internet sales?
>>
>>
> > If you even look like selling it the boys will be around and break your > legs.
Well at least I can ask them a few questions while they beat me up. No one seems to know. I thought every lad with a net connection would be well versed in this field.


From: "Highlandish" (ckreskay_CURSEING@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:19:36 +1000

Quoth The Raven "jason_"<jason_@no-spam> in 4249f724_1@no-spam > Well at least I can ask them a few questions while they beat me up. No one > seems to know. I thought every lad with a net connection > would be well versed in this field.

your beating up the wrong tree, nobody pays for net porn, they download the videos and burn their own DVD's
(sorry bout my original post, i thought you were trolling)

-- If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. - (Thomas J. Watson)

Take out the _CURSEING to reply to me

From: Ernest (deadly@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:59:40 +1000

G'day,

Assuming you are truely interested in a valid response the answer is:

You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act for your state or territory.

If you mean selling lawful pictures of nude people or people having sex, then you need to refer to the relevant laws for your state or territory. As to the troubles you need to go through to get set up you may wish to ask the people that run this web site
http://www.abbywinters.com/

This is an Australian groups featuring Australian models and are based here in Australia.

Deadly Ernest
@no-spam
(my new keyboard, with small keys,
accepts full responsibility for all typographical and spelling errors)


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:06:50 +1000

Ernest <deadly@no-spam> wrote in message news:frtk4114mlsbgrpnv08arsghhim4fernfq@no-spam
> Assuming you are truely interested in a valid response the answer is:

> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography > over the Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful -
> see the Crimes Act for your state or territory.

Complete and utter pig ignorant drivel, as always from you.

There is plenty of legal porn sold, even in newsagents, fuckwit.

> If you mean selling lawful pictures of nude people or people > having sex, then you need to refer to the relevant laws for your > state or territory. As to the troubles you need to go through to > get set up you may wish to ask the people that run this web site
> http://www.abbywinters.com/

> This is an Australian groups featuring Australian > models and are based here in Australia.

And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that that is legal.

> Deadly Ernest
Pathetic, really.

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:16:43 +1000
From: jason_ (jason_@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the > Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act > for your state or territory.

How this could possibly be, I do not know
There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:

http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list
What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:43:55 +1000

"jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message news:424afb1d_1@no-spam >> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >> Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >> for your state or territory.
>
> How this could possibly be, I do not know >
> There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:
>
> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html > http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >
> What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.

That fool has never ever had a fucking clue. It really is as basic as that.

From: "T.T." (tonyt92@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:25:32 GMT

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote in message news:3b0ksuF6dmjrtU1@no-spam >
> "jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message > news:424afb1d_1@no-spam >>> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >>> Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >>> for your state or territory.
>>
>> How this could possibly be, I do not know >>
>> There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some >> examples:
>>
>> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html >> http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >>
>> What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.
>
> That fool has never ever had a fucking clue. It really is as basic as > that.
Is that the kind of clue you need to sell porn over the net?

From: DerolicKton (DerolicKton@no-spam)
Subject: Rodney's wrong again
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:20:16 GMT

> There is plenty of legal porn sold, even in newsagents, fuckwit.

http://www.efa.org.au/Campaigns/sabill.html#efaanalysis
maybe you could swear atme and call the post drivel.
Let your mum know as it is her approval you really crave.


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Gutless fuckwit's wrong, as always.
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:27:51 +1000

DerolicKton <DerolicKton@no-spam> wrote in message news:kfI2e.18293$C7.15904@no-spam
>> There is plenty of legal porn sold, even in newsagents, fuckwit.

> http://www.efa.org.au/Campaigns/sabill.html#efaanalysis
Usual utterly mindless silly hyperventilation, as always from this complete pack of useless clowns.

There's still porn available for sale in SA, fuckwit.


From: Ernest (deadly@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:02:32 +1000

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:06:50 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam>
wrote:

>
>Ernest <deadly@no-spam> wrote in message >news:frtk4114mlsbgrpnv08arsghhim4fernfq@no-spam >
>> Assuming you are truely interested in a valid response the answer is:
>
>> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography >> over the Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful -
>> see the Crimes Act for your state or territory.
>
>Complete and utter pig ignorant drivel, as always from you.
>
>There is plenty of legal porn sold, even in newsagents, fuckwit.
>
>> If you mean selling lawful pictures of nude people or people >> having sex, then you need to refer to the relevant laws for your >> state or territory. As to the troubles you need to go through to >> get set up you may wish to ask the people that run this web site >
>> http://www.abbywinters.com/
>
>> This is an Australian groups featuring Australian >> models and are based here in Australia.
>
>And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that that is legal.
>
>> Deadly Ernest >
>Pathetic, really. >
I know you are, what Abby and others do is NOT pornography under the law - the laws make pornography unlawful but they have a different definition to you.

Deadly Ernest
@no-spam
(my new keyboard, with small keys,
accepts full responsibility for all typographical and spelling errors)


From: Ernest (deadly@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:03:09 +1000

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:16:43 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:

>> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >> Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >> for your state or territory.
>
>How this could possibly be, I do not know >
>There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:
>
> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html > http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >
>What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.

It is a matter of definition what everyone is selling is not pornography as per the law, so it is legal. Those people are in the adult sex industry which is lawful.

Deadly Ernest
@no-spam
(my new keyboard, with small keys,
accepts full responsibility for all typographical and spelling errors)


Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:15:11 +1000
From: jason_ (jason_@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

Ernest wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:16:43 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:
> > >>>You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >>>Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >>>for your state or territory.
>>
>>How this could possibly be, I do not know >>
>>There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:
>>
>> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html >> http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >>
>>What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.
> > > It is a matter of definition what everyone is selling > is not pornography as per the law, so it is legal. Those > people are in the adult sex industry which is lawful.

So the law just talks generally about pornography? ... but an american dvd title "cum guzzling bondage rape orgy" (say) would not get a second glance because its all a "matter of definition".

If the laws really are harsh, then why is this such a hazy area.


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 03:40:51 +1000

"Ernest" <deadly@no-spam> wrote in message news:02fn41t42rc1cgkdje48aqp52uh3hsc6tr@no-spam > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:06:50 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Ernest <deadly@no-spam> wrote in message >>news:frtk4114mlsbgrpnv08arsghhim4fernfq@no-spam >>
>>> Assuming you are truely interested in a valid response the answer is:
>>
>>> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography >>> over the Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful -
>>> see the Crimes Act for your state or territory.
>>
>>Complete and utter pig ignorant drivel, as always from you.
>>
>>There is plenty of legal porn sold, even in newsagents, fuckwit.
>>
>>> If you mean selling lawful pictures of nude people or people >>> having sex, then you need to refer to the relevant laws for your >>> state or territory. As to the troubles you need to go through to >>> get set up you may wish to ask the people that run this web site >>
>>> http://www.abbywinters.com/
>>
>>> This is an Australian groups featuring Australian >>> models and are based here in Australia.
>>
>>And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that that is legal.
>>
>>> Deadly Ernest >>
>>Pathetic, really.

> I know you are,

Any 2 year old could do better than that pathetic effort.

> what Abby and others do is NOT pornography under the law
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you've never ever had a fucking clue. There's a reason that porn cant be sold to kids, fuckwit.

> - the laws make pornography unlawful
Have fun explaining the porn shops in every state, you stupid pig ignorant fuckwit.

> but they have a different definition to you.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

> Deadly Ernest
Pathetic, really.

From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 03:47:15 +1000

"Ernest" <deadly@no-spam> wrote in message news:i4fn4114ds96s82stevk0f8sqfm2ck6gst@no-spam > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:16:43 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>> You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >>> Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >>> for your state or territory.
>>
>>How this could possibly be, I do not know >>
>>There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:
>>
>> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html >> http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >>
>>What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.

> It is a matter of definition what everyone is > selling is not pornography as per the law,

Not a fucking clue, as always. Have fun explaining what the porn shops down the cross are flogging,
with specific legislation that covers them too.

> so it is legal. Those people are in the adult sex industry which is lawful.

Not a fucking clue, as always. Thats porn, fuckwit.

> Deadly Ernest
Pathetic, really.

From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 03:49:56 +1000

"jason_" <jason_@no-spam> wrote in message news:424bcdb1_1@no-spam > Ernest wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:16:43 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >>>>Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >>>>for your state or territory.
>>>
>>>How this could possibly be, I do not know >>>
>>>There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:
>>>
>>> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html >>> http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >>>
>>>What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.
>>
>>
>> It is a matter of definition what everyone is selling >> is not pornography as per the law, so it is legal. Those >> people are in the adult sex industry which is lawful.

> So the law just talks generally about pornography? ...

Nope, he's got his head completely up his arse, as always.

He's an ex plod that got the bums rush because it never had a fucking clue.

> but an american dvd title "cum guzzling bondage rape orgy" (say) would not get
> a second glance because its all a "matter of definition".

> If the laws really are harsh, then why is this such a hazy area.

It isnt. The short story is that stuff like DVDs get classified and that determines who they can be sold to and what cant be sold to anyone.

From: Ernest (deadly@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:38:35 +1000

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:15:11 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:

>Ernest wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:16:43 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:
>> >> >>>>You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >>>>Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >>>>for your state or territory.
>>>
>>>How this could possibly be, I do not know >>>
>>>There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:
>>>
>>> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html >>> http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >>>
>>>What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.
>> >> >> It is a matter of definition what everyone is selling >> is not pornography as per the law, so it is legal. Those >> people are in the adult sex industry which is lawful.
>
>So the law just talks generally about pornography? ... but an american >dvd title "cum guzzling bondage rape orgy" (say) would not get a second >glance because its all a "matter of definition".
>
>If the laws really are harsh, then why is this such a hazy area.

Because there is a big variation between the legal definition of pornography and what the general public call pornography. Thus much of what you may call pornography is not pornography under the law.

The main cause of this is that the definition of pornography is a personal definition and different for each person, thus the need for a fine legal definition. Many people call photos of people having sex pornography but nor photos of people playing tennis nude, whilst others would say any photo of a person nude is pornography, and some would say a photo of a girl in a bikini is pornography.

Technically the shops operating legally do not sell pornography, just adult photos.

Deadly Ernest
@no-spam
(my new keyboard, with small keys,
accepts full responsibility for all typographical and spelling errors)


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:15:28 +1000

"Ernest" <deadly@no-spam> wrote in message news:d58p415tsj6ubunonkruggf1r51dts1kjj@no-spam > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:15:11 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>Ernest wrote:
>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:16:43 +1000, jason_ <jason_@no-spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>You can get several years in prison for selling pornography over the >>>>>Internet in Australia as pornography is unlawful - see the Crimes Act >>>>>for your state or territory.
>>>>
>>>>How this could possibly be, I do not know >>>>
>>>>There are many many online porn stores based in every state. Some examples:

>>>>
>>>> http://www.sassyroad.com/adult_dvds.html >>>> http://www.toolshed.com.au/index.cfm?CategoryID=239&fuseaction=list >>>>
>>>>What's with this facade of "it's totally illegal" yet everyone doing it.
>>>
>>>
>>> It is a matter of definition what everyone is selling >>> is not pornography as per the law, so it is legal. Those >>> people are in the adult sex industry which is lawful.
>>
>>So the law just talks generally about pornography? ... but an american >>dvd title "cum guzzling bondage rape orgy" (say) would not get a second >>glance because its all a "matter of definition".
>>
>>If the laws really are harsh, then why is this such a hazy area.

> Because there is a big variation between > the legal definition of pornography and > what the general public call pornography.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

> Thus much of what you may call pornography > is not pornography under the law.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

> The main cause of this is that the definition of > pornography is a personal definition and different for > each person, thus the need for a fine legal definition.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

> Many people call photos of people having sex > pornography but nor photos of people playing > tennis nude, whilst others would say any photo > of a person nude is pornography, and some > would say a photo of a girl in a bikini is pornography.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

> Technically the shops operating legally > do not sell pornography, just adult photos.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

> Deadly Ernest
Pathetic, really.

Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:59:26 +0930
From: arranw (arranw6000@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

jason_ wrote:
> I know there are lots of rules governing physical shops, but I was > wondering about mail order over the web.
> > Do you need a license to sell porn through a website?

who cares about the laws....filesharing, porn, speeding...etc...etc...go for it!!!! :)


From: "Brad Hogan" (brad@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:55:56 GMT

>
> Im still confused as to whether there are any laws governeing the sale of > porn over the internet... I know there are laws governing physical shops > (club x, etc)... but for businesses bases purely on internet sales
If you are talking about the ordering and payment for porn DVD's on the internet, then you have the trouble that you are
* publishing the material in the state where you ship it to.
* going to have lots of trouble with missing merchandise * going to have trouble with people who order it and get it claim they never got it which the credit card people will believe because there is so much trouble with this type of merchandise getting confiscated by cops/customs.


From: "Walter Plinge" (walterplinge@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:42:33 +1000

"FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@no-spam> wrote in message news:lWh2e.16886$C7.4827@no-spam > ITS SURE MORE AMUSING THAN YOUR TRIPE RODDLES
I thought the "Rod Smith" had died a while back. Whoever is masqerading is "Rod Smith" now is not the genuine article.

From: "Colin" (tobyjug7@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:05:55 GMT

"Walter Plinge" <walterplinge@no-spam> wrote in message news:4255a94b$0$11236$afc38c87@no-spam >
> "FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@no-spam> wrote in message > news:lWh2e.16886$C7.4827@no-spam >> ITS SURE MORE AMUSING THAN YOUR TRIPE RODDLES >
> I thought the "Rod Smith" had died a while back. Whoever is masqerading is > "Rod Smith" now is not the genuine article.

WhoTF is Rod Smith ?

Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:29:29 +0930
From: dmacka (dmacka@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling porn over the internet in Australia

Colin wrote:
> "Walter Plinge" <walterplinge@no-spam> wrote in message > news:4255a94b$0$11236$afc38c87@no-spam > >>"FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@no-spam> wrote in message >>news:lWh2e.16886$C7.4827@no-spam >>
>>>ITS SURE MORE AMUSING THAN YOUR TRIPE RODDLES >>
>>I thought the "Rod Smith" had died a while back. Whoever is masqerading is >>"Rod Smith" now is not the genuine article.
> > > > WhoTF is Rod Smith ? > > A bipolar troll
macka