AUS CARS 8491 NICE PUSSY
From: Ron the Barbarian (Newsguy)
Subject: Nice pussy
Date: 4 Sep 2004 09:10:26 GMT


http://tinyurl.com/5aspx
New big Cat has value advantage Paul Gover 03sep04

A big Cat can be a good friend. Jaguar has banked that appeal for a long time, knowing there are people who want the comfort and enjoyment only a Cat can bring.

It is now bouncing back from the last of its bad times with some impressive additions to its line-up, while its Ford funding also means we can expect some special updates in coming years. For now, the newest in the Cat family is the XJ6, a six-cylinder model of its flagship saloon that picks up all the advantages of the latest XJ body with a compact 3.0-litre V6 engine and a six-speed automatic gearbox.
Owners will also appreciate a bottom line that starts at $149,900.
It's still not a cheap car, but the XJ6 is good value when you line it up against its obvious and traditional luxury rivals, the BMW 735i from $178,300 and the Mercedes S350 from $177,900.
Even the new and impressive Audi A8, which has gone nowhere near bumping the Jag from third on the sales charts, has a starting price of $173,900.
Jaguar trumpets this as one of the world's most technically-advanced cars. You would never pick it from the retro styling, which is far too much like the previous model, but the car has a strong, but light, aluminium body and a range of technological tweaks including air suspension, electronic traction control and stability system, and the new six-speed automatic gearbox.
Jaguar believes the XJ6 will do well in Australia, banking again on its price and the chance to drive a big luxury car that still comes with 179kW of power and 300Nm of torque to satisfy shoppers.
ON THE ROAD
We still think the top Cat XJ looks too much like the previous model. But that didn't stop us enjoying the XJ6's style, elegance and old-world charm.
It has that special look people recognise as a Jaguar and a luxury car, and that's something Audi still hasn't been able to achieve – even with its excellent A8.
And the cabin ... as always, it's leather and wood with a unique smell and the feel of a luxury lounge.
Some things don't change, and the rest of the XJ package was pretty much as we remembered from our time with an XJ8. That means a soft and compliant ride, great brakes, genuine quietness and more space than most people really need.
The XJ6 doesn't have the instant thump of the V8, or its gentle rumbling exhaust, but if you had not driven with the gruntier motor you wouldn't be disappointed by the V6.
It takes a little while to get going, which is reflected in a torque peak at 4100 revs, but it is a sweet six with good pulling power and genuine top-end urge for overtaking.
It's a good box with well-chosen ratios, but that only highlights the outdated J-gate. It was world-class stuff in the 1980s when Jim Randle – it's nicknamed the "Randle Handle" – developed a semi-manual shift with a separate gate alongside the regular PND-style selector.
But these days the Jaguar system is cumbersome and clunky, far outclassed by the touch-change system in the newest Benzes, and needs to go.
The shift is offset by the fuel economy, which averaged 11.9 litres/100km during our test and could easily be better than 10 during cruising. That's partly because the XJ6 isn't a car for going quickly.
The XJ doesn't match the technology or feel of the S-Class Benz, and the Audi is great but under-appreciated, but it still has plenty of strengths. And a lot of conservative luxury shoppers would prefer its look and feel to the ultra-modern BMW Seven.
The XJ6 is a nicely-rounded package, though there will always be people who question the value of a car that's more than twice the price of a luxury Holden Caprice.
It's a 21st-century package but it's still a Jaguar. It's a bit special. Nice pussycat.
THE BOTTOM LINE
A car that's easy to live with and surprisingly frugal, but still with styling that's too like the previous model.
Herald Sun

From: atec ("atec77(notspam)"@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:46:29 +1000

Im disappointed ronny , now your trolling , nice car though
Ron the Barbarian wrote:
> > http://tinyurl.com/5aspx > > New big Cat has value advantage > Paul Gover > 03sep04
> > A big Cat can be a good friend. Jaguar has banked that appeal for a long > time, knowing there are people who want the comfort and enjoyment only a > Cat can bring.
> > It is now bouncing back from the last of its bad times with some > impressive additions to its line-up, while its Ford funding also means we > can expect some special updates in coming years.
> For now, the newest in the Cat family is the XJ6, a six-cylinder model of > its flagship saloon that picks up all the advantages of the latest XJ > body with a compact 3.0-litre V6 engine and a six-speed automatic > gearbox.
> > Owners will also appreciate a bottom line that starts at $149,900.
> > It's still not a cheap car, but the XJ6 is good value when you line it up > against its obvious and traditional luxury rivals, the BMW 735i from > $178,300 and the Mercedes S350 from $177,900.
> > Even the new and impressive Audi A8, which has gone nowhere near bumping > the Jag from third on the sales charts, has a starting price of $173,900.
> > Jaguar trumpets this as one of the world's most technically-advanced > cars. You would never pick it from the retro styling, which is far too > much like the previous model, but the car has a strong, but light,
> aluminium body and a range of technological tweaks including air > suspension, electronic traction control and stability system, and the new > six-speed automatic gearbox.
> > Jaguar believes the XJ6 will do well in Australia, banking again on its > price and the chance to drive a big luxury car that still comes with > 179kW of power and 300Nm of torque to satisfy shoppers.
> > ON THE ROAD > > We still think the top Cat XJ looks too much like the previous model. But > that didn't stop us enjoying the XJ6's style, elegance and old-world > charm.
> > It has that special look people recognise as a Jaguar and a luxury car,
> and that's something Audi still hasn't been able to achieve – even with > its excellent A8.
> > And the cabin ... as always, it's leather and wood with a unique smell > and the feel of a luxury lounge.
> > Some things don't change, and the rest of the XJ package was pretty much > as we remembered from our time with an XJ8. That means a soft and > compliant ride, great brakes, genuine quietness and more space than most > people really need.
> > The XJ6 doesn't have the instant thump of the V8, or its gentle rumbling > exhaust, but if you had not driven with the gruntier motor you wouldn't > be disappointed by the V6.
> > It takes a little while to get going, which is reflected in a torque peak > at 4100 revs, but it is a sweet six with good pulling power and genuine > top-end urge for overtaking.
> > It's a good box with well-chosen ratios, but that only highlights the > outdated J-gate. It was world-class stuff in the 1980s when Jim Randle –
> it's nicknamed the "Randle Handle" – developed a semi-manual shift with a > separate gate alongside the regular PND-style selector.
> > But these days the Jaguar system is cumbersome and clunky, far outclassed > by the touch-change system in the newest Benzes, and needs to go.
> > The shift is offset by the fuel economy, which averaged 11.9 litres/100km > during our test and could easily be better than 10 during cruising.
> That's partly because the XJ6 isn't a car for going quickly.
> > The XJ doesn't match the technology or feel of the S-Class Benz, and the > Audi is great but under-appreciated, but it still has plenty of > strengths. And a lot of conservative luxury shoppers would prefer its > look and feel to the ultra-modern BMW Seven.
> > The XJ6 is a nicely-rounded package, though there will always be people > who question the value of a car that's more than twice the price of a > luxury Holden Caprice.
> > It's a 21st-century package but it's still a Jaguar. It's a bit special.
> Nice pussycat.
> > THE BOTTOM LINE > > A car that's easy to live with and surprisingly frugal, but still with > styling that's too like the previous model.
> > Herald Sun >
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From: feral (plonked@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:49:09 +1000

Ron the Barbarian wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/5aspx > > New big Cat has value advantage > Paul Gover > 03sep04
> > A big Cat can be a good friend. Jaguar has banked that appeal for a long > time, knowing there are people who want the comfort and enjoyment only a > Cat can bring.
> > It is now bouncing back from the last of its bad times with some > impressive additions to its line-up, while its Ford funding also means we > can expect some special updates in coming years. > For now, the newest in the Cat family is the XJ6, a six-cylinder model of > its flagship saloon that picks up all the advantages of the latest XJ > body with a compact 3.0-litre V6 engine and a six-speed automatic > gearbox. > > Owners will also appreciate a bottom line that starts at $149,900. > > It's still not a cheap car, but the XJ6 is good value when you line it up > against its obvious and traditional luxury rivals, the BMW 735i from > $178,300 and the Mercedes S350 from $177,900. > > Even the new and impressive Audi A8, which has gone nowhere near bumping > the Jag from third on the sales charts, has a starting price of $173,900. > > Jaguar trumpets this as one of the world's most technically-advanced > cars. You would never pick it from the retro styling, which is far too > much like the previous model, but the car has a strong, but light, > aluminium body and a range of technological tweaks including air > suspension, electronic traction control and stability system, and the new > six-speed automatic gearbox. > > Jaguar believes the XJ6 will do well in Australia, banking again on its > price and the chance to drive a big luxury car that still comes with > 179kW of power and 300Nm of torque to satisfy shoppers. > > ON THE ROAD > > We still think the top Cat XJ looks too much like the previous model. But > that didn't stop us enjoying the XJ6's style, elegance and old-world > charm. > > It has that special look people recognise as a Jaguar and a luxury car, > and that's something Audi still hasn't been able to achieve – even with > its excellent A8. > > And the cabin ... as always, it's leather and wood with a unique smell > and the feel of a luxury lounge. > > Some things don't change, and the rest of the XJ package was pretty much > as we remembered from our time with an XJ8. That means a soft and > compliant ride, great brakes, genuine quietness and more space than most > people really need. > > The XJ6 doesn't have the instant thump of the V8, or its gentle rumbling > exhaust, but if you had not driven with the gruntier motor you wouldn't > be disappointed by the V6. > > It takes a little while to get going, which is reflected in a torque peak > at 4100 revs, but it is a sweet six with good pulling power and genuine > top-end urge for overtaking. > > It's a good box with well-chosen ratios, but that only highlights the > outdated J-gate. It was world-class stuff in the 1980s when Jim Randle – > it's nicknamed the "Randle Handle" – developed a semi-manual shift with a > separate gate alongside the regular PND-style selector. > > But these days the Jaguar system is cumbersome and clunky, far outclassed > by the touch-change system in the newest Benzes, and needs to go. > > The shift is offset by the fuel economy, which averaged 11.9 litres/100km > during our test and could easily be better than 10 during cruising. > That's partly because the XJ6 isn't a car for going quickly. > > The XJ doesn't match the technology or feel of the S-Class Benz, and the > Audi is great but under-appreciated, but it still has plenty of > strengths. And a lot of conservative luxury shoppers would prefer its > look and feel to the ultra-modern BMW Seven. > > The XJ6 is a nicely-rounded package, though there will always be people > who question the value of a car that's more than twice the price of a > luxury Holden Caprice. > > It's a 21st-century package but it's still a Jaguar. It's a bit special. > Nice pussycat. > > THE BOTTOM LINE > > A car that's easy to live with and surprisingly frugal, but still with > styling that's too like the previous model. > > Herald Sun > Fair review Ron.
A more personal touch (like Noddy's GETZ review) would have gone over better IMO. 6/10

-- Take Care.
Feral

From: Ron the Barbarian (Newsguy)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: 4 Sep 2004 10:01:21 GMT

atec <"atec77(notspam)"@no-spam> wrote in news:41398EF5.3772A3BB@no-spam
> Im disappointed ronny , now your trolling , nice car though >
Not yet :-)

Just doing a "Hatz".....


From: Ron the Barbarian (Newsguy)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: 4 Sep 2004 10:03:23 GMT

feral <plonked@no-spam> wrote in news:2pthbcFoofq9U3@no-spam
>> THE BOTTOM LINE >> >> A car that's easy to live with and surprisingly frugal, but still >> with styling that's too like the previous model. >> >> Herald Sun >> > Fair review Ron.
> A more personal touch (like Noddy's GETZ review) would > have gone over better IMO. 6/10
>
Don't read his bullshit/I'm always right crap anymore, so I er..'missed' it. :-)

Ron

From: Gregory Toomey (nospam@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:23:50 +1000

Ron the Barbarian <Newsguy> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/5aspx > > New big Cat has value advantage > Paul Gover > 03sep04
> > A big Cat can be a good friend. Jaguar has banked that appeal for a long > time, knowing there are people who want the comfort and enjoyment only a > Cat can bring.
>
That may be so, but this chick has pussy that makes men drool the world over.
http://valdefierro.com/aybs002.jpg
gtoomey

From: "Neil Gerace" (geracen@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 21:06:41 +0800

> Ron the Barbarian <Newsguy> wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5aspx >>
>> New big Cat has value advantage >> Paul Gover >> 03sep04
>>
>> A big Cat can be a good friend. Jaguar has banked that appeal for a long >> time, knowing there are people who want the comfort and enjoyment only a >> Cat can bring.

From the report it sounds like the most gutless XJ6 yet, hardly worthy of the badge.

From: Toby Ponsenby (toby@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 01:28:39 +1000

<| Neil Gerace |> did write on 04Sep2004 at 11:06:41 PM > From the report it sounds like the most gutless XJ6 yet, hardly worthy of > the badge.

Bingo.
Duh - If you've never driven the V8 version you'd never guess this one couldn't pull the prick off a leper.

That's what glover should have said if he didn't want to review a Jag or Ford or even Volvo ever again:-)

-- Toby quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur

From: "Fraser Johnston" (fraser@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 23:39:57 +0800

"Ron the Barbarian" <Newsguy> wrote in message news:Xns955AC30C8D16Anofuse@no-spam > http://tinyurl.com/5aspx >

So when are you buying yours Ron?

Fraser

From: "Clockmeister" (It's a heap of shit Ron)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:00:28 +0800

Nice review Ron.


From: "Neil Gerace" (geracen@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:51:59 +0800

"Toby Ponsenby" <toby@no-spam> wrote in message news:1n1ywt9zuvn42.dlg@no-spam > <| Neil Gerace |> did write on 04Sep2004 at 11:06:41 PM >> From the report it sounds like the most gutless XJ6 yet, hardly worthy of >> the badge.
>
> Bingo.
> Duh - If you've never driven the V8 version you'd never guess this one > couldn't pull the prick off a leper.

The first ones I remember reading about were not a lot slower than the contemporary XJ12. This one looks like pure crippleware.

From: Ron the Barbarian (Newsguy)
Subject: Re: Nice pussy
Date: 4 Sep 2004 21:10:04 GMT

"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@no-spam> wrote in news:2pu5ulFmk8t3U1@no-spam berlin.de:

> > "Ron the Barbarian" <Newsguy> wrote in message > news:Xns955AC30C8D16Anofuse@no-spam >> http://tinyurl.com/5aspx >>
> > So when are you buying yours Ron?
> > Fraser
No thankyou, I'd prefer the 4 litre V8.